One of my favorite cars I ever owned was a MKIII Toyota Supra sportroof (targa). It wasn’t the fastest car but it was luxurious and with a 5 speed manual and smooth revving inline six it was fun to drive.

The MKIV was always the Supra I wanted but they went from being somewhat pricy to ludicrous expensive thanks to the stupid fast and furious movie.

After about 20 years Toyota decided to resurrect the iconic name, and in typical Toyota fashion water it down with an automatic only transmission and they made it uglier than its predecessors.

This is what they had to work with for inspiration:






This was the result of a BMW/Toyota collaboration.

It is disappointing. I also don't understand the collaboration with BMW. It's not like Toyota doesn't have the capability to produce excellent vehicles.

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Originally posted by trapper189:
It is disappointing. I also don't understand the collaboration with BMW. It's not like Toyota doesn't have the capability to produce excellent vehicles.

Looks like a half-assed Z4 coupe on steroids. Appropriate since that is what it really is.

As to the reason for the collaboration: $$$


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I guess it is true that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I like the way it looks, but it also doesn't look like a Toyota to me. It looks like someone left a BMW 4 series alone in the dark with a Lexus.

I'm a fan of the old 1982 Supra. One of my fraternity brothers had one and that car was really impressive to me at the time for its looks and all the bells and whistles inside(for that time).



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its partially financial, as it shares the 2019 Z4 platform. coupe/sports car sales pale in comparison to SUV/CUV and Trucks. no one wants to invest any serious money into the mid/budget market sports car...50k is now mid to low for these animals. Toyota and BMW could certainly do their own sports coupe, but sharing parts helps their bottom line...or so they assume. Dumb people like me wonder why a flat-6 or high output turbo 4 doesnt go into the 86 platform they built with Subaru.

i fall in love with almost all serious sport wagons...unfortunately i never get them...perpetual disappointment.

The thing that sucks the most is that they could have stripped down a LC 500, thrown on turbos and a 7 speed manual and turned the automotive world on its head.

This carries on the unique/futuristic look & spirit of the Supra far better than this new “Supra” even if it has a V8....at least BMW didn’t make the engine.

I'll take a 90's era please. Pass on whatever that thing is with supra badge on it in the bottom pics.

ETA yeah that Lexus looks more supra-like than the new supra.

That isn't a Supra, that new car is a modified BMW 2 series with a Toyota badge.

Very disappointing.

I like that LC500 though, alot.

The beauty in the supra was that it wasn't small, it had some heft. That and a really cool spoiler and big exhaust tips.

This spoiler sucks donkey. Its like a miata and that lexus LC thing had some meth and made a baby.

Should have jut left the old girl alone. the older version is still stunning when done right. Some guy around here has a white one and besides some crap he bolted to it, it looks marvelous.

I am not a fan of the new styling but sometimes with time the look can grow on you. We will see. I think the BMW version of the car looks better, especially the front end.

The part that surprised me was it's auto only. I think in a 300hp car a 6 speed would have made it feel more sporty. I am sure the auto is more efficient but still it should have been an options to get a stick.

It is an inline six so maybe a turbo version with 450+hp will happen eventually.

I always thought the 90s Supras were uninspired and dorky looking. The new one is at least aesthetically pleasing to the eye. A 1985 or so without the rear spoiler but with the front spoiler was the only older one I thought looked decent.

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Originally posted by mark123:
I always thought the 90s Supras were uninspired and dorky looking.

Yup.

Toyota makes washing machines you can drive...

But now with BMW power and hands-off reliability KZ1000.

Looks like a Mazda RX Supra 8. Kinda like an Oldsmobuick.

After the initial pent up demand this will be a major fail because it’s too small and Toyota will screw up by overpricing it the same way they did the last gen.

It’s RX-8 ugly. I don’t see much to get excited about with this new Supra. The lack of a manual transmission is borderline infuriating.

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I'm a fan of the old 1982 Supra. One of my fraternity brothers had one and that car was really impressive to me at the time for its looks and all the bells and whistles inside (for that time).

Were we fraternity brothers?
That was a nice car... I loved it.

The new one ... NOT so much.

Been following this since it was announced last year. Saw the teaser photos with the camo covers on it....then the accidental release photos from Mexico and all I have to say is: Fuck you Toyota for ruining an icon. Should have let the series die off without resurrecting the Supra name.

Will it go? Don't know. Don't care. The thing is fugly to me, so I won't even pay attention when one goes by.

Saw that this week, very disappointing. Based on recent reviews of the Z4 I expect it to perform "ok", but that is a botched experiment in every part of design by my estimation. The Z4 is actually bearable to look at, just.

Good luck Toyota - hope you can recoup your investment in BMW with very low volumes before killing this in 2 years.