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Originally posted by ontmark:
I for one also own two long guns with no serial numbers on them.

I am curious about this. Is there any law that requires a serial number on a gun? I assumed that there is, but that's just an assumption on my part, not based on knowledge.

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Originally posted by V-Tail:

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Originally posted by ontmark:
I for one also own two long guns with no serial numbers on them.

I am curious about this. Is there any law that requires a serial number on a gun? I assumed that there is, but that's just an assumption on my part, not based on knowledge.

If you make your own firearm, no it is not required, but the ATF strongly recommend that you do, in case of theft.

Firearms weren't required until the GCA of 1968, most had them before hand, but it wasn't required by law until then.

So, if you built a 80% AR 15 lower, in free America, no, you are not required to put a serial number on it. If you do add one, there is no need to report it and it can be anything you want it to be.

Now in Communistfornia the people's republic of, you have to add a serial number to your 80% lower and you have to get it from the Overlords.


Arman

The Small Arms Survey is a joke.
A few years ago they published a figure of 40 million firearms in India. They came up with that figure by looking at the number of (illegal) guns confiscated in a year and concluding that these represented a fraction of the illegal firearms in circulation. Then they multiplied that number by whatever took their fancy to come up with the 40 million figure.

Now I see that they are touting a 70 million figure for India. What a farce.

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Originally posted by V-Tail:

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Originally posted by ontmark:
I for one also own two long guns with no serial numbers on them.

I am curious about this. Is there any law that requires a serial number on a gun? I assumed that there is, but that's just an assumption on my part, not based on knowledge.

In California you now must engrave a serial number issued by the DOJ into long arms that do not have one. This does not apply to curio relics 50 plus years old. I received the Shotgun when I was twelve. I received the 22 when I was eighteen and it was used. I believe these are both to be over 50 years old. I am 62.

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Originally posted by StorminNormin:
The way it should be.

Nonsense, those ratios should be much higher.

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Civilians own 100 10,000 times as many guns as the military, 400 100,000 times as many as police

This is why I love America. Got into a discussion online with a Brit complaining about our president. I told him too bad you don't have our freedom.

I would be really skeptical of these numbers...they openly admit to using 'expert estimates'.

Even with all the hedging about the accuracy of the survey, a comparison of number of firearms with number of firearm-induced homicides would indicate that firearms owners are by and large an astonishingly nonviolent bunch.

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Originally posted by jdmb03:
This is why I love America. Got into a discussion online with a Brit complaining about our president. I told him too bad you don't have our freedom.

You wasted part of a day discussing guns with a person to whom you might have been talking about underwater cakemaking for the deaf.

I don't bother talking to people about guns here. They either express interest or they don't, since it's not a subject that readily springs up in any conversation that I can think of.

If they express an interest, after having asked me what I do in my spare time and discovered that I shoot, I might invite them along as my guest on one of the twelve guest days we have per year.

And take it from there.

I never tell ANYBODY how many guns I have, though.

tac