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I agree that the methodology is not exact both in the US and virtually every other country but I think it is a fairly accurate stab at the state of firearms ownership worldwide.

As much as the libs would have us believe that gun ownership is a bad thing I can't help but think that any country that would try to invade us would pay the ultimate price .... and they know it....


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Imagine if every gun owner voted like a gun owner and made it clear that’s why they voted that way.
No politician would dare mention infringing our gun rights for the next 50 years.




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The interesting part is if the survey is actually wrong that means there are even more guns in the U.S.


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I personally think the survey is flawed ,I had some before this gov. started up with that damn paper work.I bought guns back in the fifties as a teenager.
 
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The founders trusted us. Our current polticraps, not so much. The feeling is mutual.

Maintaining consent of the governed is a bit dicier when the governed have by far most of the guns.




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The interesting part is if the survey is actually wrong that means there are even more guns in the U.S.


It actually could go either way. As mentioned, Kentucky does back ground checks on all CCDW holders every other month. So that pads the numbers quite a bit on NICS checks. However, there is NO documentation in NICS each time I buy a gun, because I show them my CCDW, they write the number down on the 4473, and I walk out the door. The only way that it *may* get reported someplace is if I buy multiple handguns, then a multiple form is filled out, and it goes to the local agency and goes to the desk of.......me. So, perhaps I am under reporting myself?




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The interesting part is if the survey is actually wrong that means there are even more guns in the U.S.


It actually could go either way. As mentioned, Kentucky does back ground checks on all CCDW holders every other month. So that pads the numbers quite a bit on NICS checks. However, there is NO documentation in NICS each time I buy a gun, because I show them my CCDW, they write the number down on the 4473, and I walk out the door. The only way that it *may* get reported someplace is if I buy multiple handguns, then a multiple form is filled out, and it goes to the local agency and goes to the desk of.......me. So, perhaps I am under reporting myself?



the 3310 is reported to the ATF ,

not sure if they do anything with it or not,

the different branchs or offices of the ATF are notorious for not communicating between themselves (NFA branch, Licensing, Compliance etc etc, got that info from an inspector) so wondering if it is actually communicated to the FBI or ??



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I agree that the methodology is not exact both in the US and virtually every other country but I think it is a fairly accurate stab at the state of firearms ownership worldwide.

As much as the libs would have us believe that gun ownership is a bad thing I can't help but think that any country that would try to invade us would pay the ultimate price .... and they know it....


I find it somewhat amusing to consider what would actually happen if it came down to an "invasion" of the USA. Consider the distances, the number of firearms held by folks who are competent in their use.

Then consider some "force" trying to impose their will on the population. I remember some numbers when I was in the army (long, long, ago) that for every reasonably skilled guerilla fighter in the USA who was resisting some "invasion" it would take some 150 opposing troops to run them down. Shots from 300+ yards, then the shooter just bugs out to repeat later. Terrain? Hilly, wooded.

Even a few hundred skilled riflemen would make any invasion force wish they were still back home!

Several police forces and several military soldiers were asked if ordered to fire on Americans, would/could they do it. To a man the answer was NO!!


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"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson

I'm good with the distribution noted.


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I think the 400 mil number is light.

Most of the guys I know that have been into guns for a while now have 5 to 10 times the number of guns now than they did 15-20 years ago. Check to see how many guns they claim were out there 10 years ago.

Most of my friends had 1 or 2 guns 15-20 years ago.
Now they have 5 to 10 times that number.


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Behind every blade of grass.


That’s damn right.

I’m ok with this being an article with an extreme low-ball estimate.


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I for one also own two long guns with no serial numbers on them. They both are used often and shoot modern ammo.

Add at least two more to the list. Big Grin



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Glad to hear it.
 
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yeah, but shhhhhhhh !

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Some problems with their methods. Here in KY, they just toss all ccw holders names out every month or two. Has nothing to do with purchases, but instead is a check to see if we've been good boys and girls, seeking convictions for things they don't like. While many dealers set up at gun shows and any buyers must see if they have the governments permission to buy another, most sales are private individual sales.


Link to support, explain this?




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Some problems with their methods. Here in KY, they just toss all ccw holders names out every month or two. Has nothing to do with purchases, but instead is a check to see if we've been good boys and girls, seeking convictions for things they don't like. While many dealers set up at gun shows and any buyers must see if they have the governments permission to buy another, most sales are private individual sales.


Link to support, explain this?


Been explained a couple of times already. Kentucky (Kentucky State Police CCDW section to be exact) runs back ground checks on all CCDW holders every 60 days to maintain that prohibited persons don’t hold CCDW licenses. In exchange, when a license holder buys a gun, all they have to do is show their permit and they forgo the NICS check.




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Must've missed those prior threads, thanks!




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Must've missed those prior threads, thanks!


I’d post you a link, but it’s somewhere in revised statue chapter 237. I couldn’t find it on my phone.




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... and yet the left keeps poking the bear




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Imagine if we had no boats...

Then, everyone would still be having their arsenals.


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