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When I have rented a car near a US border, the agreement stated that the car was only to be driven in the USA. Most likely, this is because if there is any sort of problem, getting the vehicle towed back to the US would be problematical.


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Again, words on paper won't stop someone from driving across the border.

It just means that if you do, they're in a better position to saddle you with extra fees, make you responsible for the international recovery/tow bill, or else write the car off as a loss and come after you for the replacement cost.
 
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I'm sure we all feel better now that the cartel involved has sent an apology letter. Apparently the violent murderers and drug smugglers involved in the incident broke the violent murderous drug smuggling cartel's strict rules about respecting the lives and well-being of the innocent. Roll Eyes

(No, it's not from The Onion or The Babylon Bee.)

From https://apnews.com/article/mex...campaign=position_01

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CIUDAD VICTORIA, Mexico (AP) — A letter claiming to be from the Mexican drug cartel blamed for abducting four Americans and killing two of them condemned the violence and said the gang turned over to authorities its own members who were responsible.

In a letter obtained by The Associated Press through a Tamaulipas state law enforcement source, the Scorpions faction of the Gulf cartel apologized to the residents of Matamoros where the Americans were kidnapped, the Mexican woman who died in the cartel shootout, and the four Americans and their families.

Drug cartels have been known to issue communiques to intimidate rivals and authorities, but also at times like these to do some public relations work to try to smooth over situations that could affect their business.

“We have decided to turn over those who were directly involved and responsible in the events, who at all times acted under their own decision-making and lack of discipline,” the letter reads, adding that those individuals had gone against the cartel’s rules, which include “respecting the life and well-being of the innocent.”

A photograph of five men face down on the pavement and bound accompanied the letter, which was shared with The Associated Press by the source on condition that they remain anonymous because they were not authorized to share the document.

State officials did not immediately publicly confirm having new suspects in custody.

A separate state security official said that five men had been found tied up inside one of the vehicles that authorities had been searching for, along with the letter. That official also spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about the case.
 
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Interesting strategic move.

This incident was bringing serious international attention to the cartel. Sacrificing 5 members claiming they "broke the rules" is likely nothing more than what it appears to be, smoke and mirrors.




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Are they inviting important American officials for a dinner?
This sort of apology shows you how little they understand American culture.
 
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It is like a scene out of a bad Spaghetti Western complete with dramatic music.
 
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I'm waiting for the Apology tour and appearance on The View. Guess the college kids from Brownsville can drive to Mexico for Spring Break. Nothing to see here folks, come on down. ...
 
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Fifty cent was on the View. He said that the panelists seemed afraid of him.
 
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Are they inviting important American officials for a dinner?


Maybe they're hoping to score an invite from Biden for another "Beer Summit".

 
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I'm sure we all feel better now that the cartel involved has sent an apology letter. Apparently the violent murderers and drug smugglers involved in the incident broke the violent murderous drug smuggling cartel's strict rules about respecting the lives and well-being of the innocent. Roll Eyes

(No, it's not from The Onion or The Babylon Bee.)

From https://apnews.com/article/mex...campaign=position_01

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CIUDAD VICTORIA, Mexico (AP) — A letter claiming to be from the Mexican drug cartel blamed for abducting four Americans and killing two of them condemned the violence and said the gang turned over to authorities its own members who were responsible.

In a letter obtained by The Associated Press through a Tamaulipas state law enforcement source, the Scorpions faction of the Gulf cartel apologized to the residents of Matamoros where the Americans were kidnapped, the Mexican woman who died in the cartel shootout, and the four Americans and their families.

Drug cartels have been known to issue communiques to intimidate rivals and authorities, but also at times like these to do some public relations work to try to smooth over situations that could affect their business.

“We have decided to turn over those who were directly involved and responsible in the events, who at all times acted under their own decision-making and lack of discipline,” the letter reads, adding that those individuals had gone against the cartel’s rules, which include “respecting the life and well-being of the innocent.”

A photograph of five men face down on the pavement and bound accompanied the letter, which was shared with The Associated Press by the source on condition that they remain anonymous because they were not authorized to share the document.

State officials did not immediately publicly confirm having new suspects in custody.

A separate state security official said that five men had been found tied up inside one of the vehicles that authorities had been searching for, along with the letter. That official also spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak about the case.


Actually, it sounds more sincere than any apology we get from American politicians ... but I still don't believe it.
 
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I'm glad some of them made it back alive. Some interesting commentary in this thread. I was born and raised in El Paso, and now I live pretty close to the border again. I've never been over, and I won't. There's zero draw for me. None.

I've said it on this forum a few times, and since I've lately been accused on these very pages of being isolationist, it gives me a smile to again say I think we need to annex Mexico. I know, I know, we're the good guys and good guys don't do that. Whatever. I think we need to, and I think once the dust settles and there's mass graves filled with cartel body parts, we'll all be better off: The United States, and the Annexed Mexican Federal Territories. We would be bringing order to a lawless land full of people who really could actually use defending from tyranny, and in our own back yard, no less. Would make a hell of a lot more sense than sending billions of dollars in weapons to Ukraine and it would absolutely show China and Russia that we don't fuck around. Central American narco states would have to really think about whether they want to be next before they ship their cocaine and meth up through New New Mexico. Alas, pipe dreams.

"Is he being serious?" I don't know, but I think it's no more dangerous rhetoric than that driving our involvement in another European land war. Arguably a much safer bet. Imagine the opioid epidemic drawing to a rapid close, since the same government that would double the landmass of the country would also secure the ports against Chinese shipments of drugs. Maybe it's more trouble than it's worth, but see, that's where a wall and and a militarized border would solve problems cheaper. Also a pipe dream.


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Originally posted by CPD SIG:
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I may be wrong, but I thought that most of the rental car companies, if not all of them, did not allow you to take the car across international borders. That would be in the rental contract you sign.
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If they're going to Mexico for a tummy tuck, do you think they're really going to read the contract line by line?


Exactly. OKCGene is thinking like an intelligent rule-follower, not like the average Joe.


I'll take that as a compliment, lol.

Actually, the technology does exist to prevent a vehicle from driving. Just shut it off. It's the will to take on the $$$ cost as well as weather the storm of public outrage, but it's a decision for the actuarial guys and bean counters and such.
 
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Well, were not going to annex Mexico. We need to do a lot to secure our mostly unsecured Border (a whole lot) but annexing Mexico, no thanks.
 
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Sound strategic move. You don't want to piss off and poke the bear, but keep the temperature slightly below boiling. Otherwise the U.S. might have to do more than provide mere lip service and actually start stemming the northbound flow of drugs/aliens when you draw too much attention to yourself.

Clearly, the cartels have seen Sicario and Clear and Present Danger! Wink
 
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One of the survivors was just arrested in SC for taking one of her 6 kids back to fight another kid after she’d already been taken away from the fight by another family member. Then while at the fight ol “Tay” pulled out a gun. This all happened in February before her trip to Mexico but she was just arrested for it.

The kidnappers should have killed her too, now we have to deal with her. I’m sure her 6 kids are going to grow up to be fine, productive members of society.

https://www.wbtw.com/news/gran...in-myrtle-beach/amp/

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MYRTLE BEACH, S.C. (WBTW) — One of the two Mexico kidnapping survivors was arrested Friday night in Myrtle Beach, according to online booking records.

Latavia Washington McGee, 34, was arrested and charged with contributing to the delinquency of a minor, records show.

Washington McGee’s child, a minor, allegedly went to a location to fight another child on Feb. 17, according to an arrest warrant obtained by News13. The child was then removed from the location by another family member, before allegedly being taken back to the location by Washington McGee.

The warrant alleges that she knowingly took her child to the location of the fight. Police were able to view security video of the entire incident.

During the incident, she allegedly “pulled a pistol from her purse and started waving it around,” according to a police report obtained by News13.

Washington McGee was part of a group that traveled to Mexico in March for a cosmetic procedure, according to reports. Eric Williams also survived the kidnapping. Zindell Brown and Shaeed Woodard were both killed. All four are Lake City natives.

The group was found at a wooden shack and taken back to the United States, according to Mexican investigative documents viewed by the Associated Press.

Inside the shack, the documents said Washington McGee and Williams were blindfolded. Beside them were the bodies of Woodard and Brown, wrapped in blankets and plastic bags. When authorities arrived, Washington McGee and Williams shouted desperately to them in English.

A guard who tried to escape out a back door was quickly apprehended, the documents said. He was wearing a tactical vest, but there is no mention of him being armed.





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^^^ IM SHOCKED! ^^^


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G!!! Eek



Another that I always thought was hilarious. My shocked face...



Just feral dregs of society. JSMH...



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The whole thing sounds like an episode of Justified where Boyd and company went to Mexico to pick up a load of heroin and smuggle it back themselves, with almost the same results as this situation.



Maybe they dug coal together....
 
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I'm sure we all feel better now that the cartel involved has sent an apology letter. Apparently the violent murderers and drug smugglers involved in the incident broke the violent murderous drug smuggling cartel's strict rules about respecting the lives and well-being of the innocent. Roll Eyes



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