I have noticed the NZ police are pretty well armed

This article could appear in a half-dozen different threads, but I posted it here since it it seems to be more appropriate, based upon some comments.

Boss, if you think this is out of order, please delete, and I beg for your forgiveness.


https://townhall.com/columnist...us-jeopardy-n2595829

Why Freedom Is in Serious Jeopardy
by Dennis Prager

There are many ways in which to divide humanity -- the decent and the indecent, the happy and the unhappy, the cowardly and the courageous, those who lead and those who follow, etc.

Two major divisions that are less often noted but highly consequential are between those who want to control others and those who have little interest in controlling others, and between the related categories of those who are comfortable with being controlled by others and those who detest being controlled by others.

Those who seek to control others and those who seek to be controlled by others would seem to be on opposite ends of the political spectrum. But they are not. Both groups are overwhelmingly populated by individuals on the Left.

They currently dominate four of the five English-speaking countries (the United Kingdom may be the one exception). The ease with which Australians, Canadians and New Zealanders have accepted the loss of liberty in their respective countries has been the saddest and most frightening development since the rise of totalitarianism in the early 20th century.

Even sadder and more frightening has been the acceptance of authoritarianism by half of the American people. America has been the beacon of liberty in the world. America was the country to which France gave the Statue of Liberty. America has been, as President Abraham Lincoln characterized it, "the last best hope of Earth." America's self-image has been that of a "sweet land of liberty" and of "the land of the free and home of the brave."

Then came a new virus (one with a survival rate in the 99% range for nearly all age groups except older adults who are also very sick), and suddenly, in the name of "public health," no amount of suppression of liberty, no matter how irrational, has been resisted by the majority of Americans or almost any citizens of the other English-speaking countries.

The citizens of Australia's biggest states are not allowed to leave their homes for more than a few hours a day, not allowed to congregate with other citizens even outdoors, not allowed even to speak with one another outdoors. For more than a year and a half, Australians have not been allowed to leave their country without the express permission of their government, which will decide whether they have a good enough reason. And, of course, church services are forbidden. Australians, Canadians and New Zealanders, most of whom are thoroughly secular, have only contempt for their compatriots who wish to attend religious services.

In many arenas of life, most Australians have fewer rights than most Soviet citizens did. Like Australians, Soviet citizens could not leave their country without permission, but they were allowed to leave their homes, to speak with people in the street and to visit dying relatives in hospitals.

Meanwhile, a large percentage of Americans support a president of the United States who offers government and an enormous number of private-entity workers a choice between getting vaccinated -- no matter how young they are, and whether they already had COVID-19 -- or losing their job. In other words, many Americans support firing any unvaccinated fellow citizens who work for the government, the medical professions or privately owned companies with 100 or more employees.

Half of America supports a president who portrays the other half of America as an enemy, their fellow Americans as people for whom they should have hatred. No American president has ever given as divisive a speech as the one in which President Joe Biden announced his vaccine mandates (something he denied wanting to impose only nine months ago, in December of 2020). Lincoln, despite the Civil War, a war in which more Americans were killed than in all other American wars combined, called on Americans to have "malice toward none." Biden, as mean-spirited a president as this country has ever had, has called for malice toward 100 million Americans, declaring, "our patience is wearing thin."

There is a three-pronged left-wing assault on liberty: in the name of public health (COVID-19); in the name of "anti-racism"; and in the name of saving the planet (climate change). By ratcheting up fear and hysteria, the Left is using each to end individual liberty, including freedom of speech, for the first time in American history.

Will the Left succeed?

Unless Americans fight the Left as hard as the Union fought the slave states, the answer is yes.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by stickman428:
A state so disconnected from reality that it would rather blame its citizens for its own blatant failures should not exist. New Zealand might be ripe for the taking but who wants to rule over a nation of submissive cuckold losers?

Man, I'm telling you, you might want to take a look at your fellow Americans before throwing that around. Seriously. We have nothing to brag about.

Balze's got a good point there, stickman.

I mean, talk about people living in glass houses calling the kettle black ...

Yep, we are ourselves a cuckold nation. Nauseating that folks are so terrified of nature and dying that they embrace slavery...anything if daddy government will just save their sorry ass for a few more breaths.

" Embrace slavery " ...wow .

Yeah, slavery. They don't just throw you in chains, champ...it's a process. We are either a nation of fools or a nation crying out for enslavement.

You know - I always thought the mind was the most dangerous weapon. (Rambo reference)

Let's lobotomize everyone !!! Problem solved.

New Zealand no longer has an Air Force.
When I read that, I realized for the first time this is not a serious country, and it exists solely because it is small, out of the way, and protected by the US and Australia.
Nice people. Idiots.

Just found this in my favorite paper, The Epoch Times.

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New Zealand

Left out of the new alliance is Australia’s neighbor New Zealand. It has a longstanding nuclear-free policy that includes a ban on nuclear-powered ships entering its ports. That stance has sometimes been a sticking point in otherwise close relations with the United States.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern said New Zealand wasn’t asked to be part of the alliance and wouldn’t have expected an invitation. Still, it leaves New Zealand out of a deal to share a range of information including artificial intelligence, cyber, and underwater defense capabilities.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

Same pattern as the U.K.: Ban the guns, then ban the knives. Next up: Being found in possession of anything that might be used as a defensive tool will get you arrested.

UK laws prohibited certain types of gun, specifically, cartridge-firing handguns on Mainland UK, but not Northern Ireland, and semi-automatic centrefire rifles and carbines. Around six million shotgunners and two million other firearms users have all kinds of shotguns and all the other types of firearm that fit into the legislation. I have twenty-three firearms and no shotguns.

Knives with blades longer than 3 inches, carried in public without 'good reason', are prohibited. However, the same applies in certain states in the USA. I bleeve that there was a thread about carrying a fixed-blade knife for PP here a short while back.

At least we don't make it a criminal offence to possess a fired cartridge case, as in Washington DC, not do we have limitations on the size of magazines, and there is no tax on sound moderators either.

Don't get me wrong - none of those things make up for the loss of my Garand or any of my cartridge-firing handguns, it's just that every time any criminal activity likes this crops up, the fall guy is always the UK. How about looking at some other countries around the world where there is NO gun ownership of any kind? Or no knife-carrying at all?

It sure do get tiring reading.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

Same pattern as the U.K.: Ban the guns, then ban the knives. Next up: Being found in possession of anything that might be used as a defensive tool will get you arrested.

I believe the UK will even arrest you for defending yourself.

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Originally posted by HayesGreener:
I have noticed the NZ police are pretty well armed

Up until recently - they did not carry firearms. 2 Glocks were kept in a vehicle lock box JIC. I also believe there is some cross-over between their Police and Military.

There is a show called "Mr. in Between" where the main character is a hit man in NZ.

Some pretty good stuff in general, and at times seems to follow the subject of the thread fairly well too as I recall.

For a while I wanted to move there because I'd heard so many good things. That time has past.

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Originally posted by bdylan:
Yeah, slavery. They don't just throw you in chains, champ...it's a process. We are either a nation of fools or a nation crying out for enslavement.

Yes, we as a nation are EMBRACING slavery.

We do whatever the govt tells us to do. We attack ANYONE who even questions 'the science' of the disease, its origins, the usefulness of destroying our economy, having all the BS mask rules. People who would fight to the death to defend a woman's 'right to choose' are now fighting to the death to FORCE everybody to take the stupid vaccine.

Gone are ANY national conversations about liberty, freedom from tyranny, or the innate ability of Americans to pursue happiness. No, all that was thrown out for the illusion of 'public safety.'

We are willingly turning into a nation of slaves.

They literally had a surveillance team following this terrorist around and he was still able to perform an act of terror. Armed police following this guys every move could not prevent his actions. What in the actual f@uck do they think removing knives is going to do?? If there is a will there is a way.

How about deporting this piece back to his homeland!

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Originally posted by tacfoley:
UK laws prohibited certain types of gun, specifically, cartridge-firing handguns on Mainland UK, but not Northern Ireland, and semi-automatic centrefire rifles and carbines.

So, essentially, any modern firearm suitable for self defense.

And absolutely no possibility of carrying at all--unless, of course, you're a law enforcement officer or active military in the performance of your duties, correct?

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Originally posted by tacfoley:
Knives with blades longer than 3 inches, carried in public without 'good reason', are prohibited.

Must be a folder, manual deployment only, no locking blades. Every single pocket knife I carry on a daily basis would be disallowed there.

Btw: As I read it, it's "under three inches," not "three inch maximum."

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Originally posted by tacfoley:
However, the same applies in certain states in the USA. I believe that there was a thread about carrying a fixed-blade knife for PP here a short while back.

No doubt many states do. Mine essentially allows you to carry pretty much whatever you want, anywhere you want, subject to municipal ordinances. (Many people are under the mistaken impression Michigan has a 3-inch blade limit. Not strictly true. And there are restrictions on fixed-blades, but they're worded kinda weirdly.)

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Originally posted by tacfoley:
... it's just that every time any criminal activity likes this crops up, the fall guy is always the UK. How about looking at some other countries around the world where there is NO gun ownership of any kind? Or no knife-carrying at all?

Probably because our culture was derived primarily from that of England's and England's laws at the time regarding the right to keep and bear arms were the basis for ours. The U.K.'s citizens' rights were eroded, bit-by-bit, over time, until you essentially have no rights in that respect any longer.

Sure, Japan (last I knew) has the most restrictive firearms laws on the planet, but our laws and society were not derived from Japan's--or anywhere else's, but from England's. Thus, what we see happening in the U.K. serves as a dire warning for what could someday happen here.

Ditto Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.

I'm sorry you keep seeing reminders of how badly your rights have been eroded. I'm even more sad that they have. And I'm even more sad than that that it's slowly happening here, just as it did there. (Though we've enjoyed a steady number of reversals in the trend over the last decade or so.)

Fellas, just a little Claymore mine logic here…

Front Towards Enemy

Focus ….

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Originally posted by SIGnified:
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha … oh my word … fuckin’ A … can’t stop laughing…

Tomorrow’s breaking headline: New Zealand bans Hammers & Rocks

Beat me to it. Don’t forget hatchets. And replace all pencils with soft-tip markers. And ban metal pipes. Keeping billiard balls and rocks smaller than a baseball in proximity of tube socks, pillowcases, and shopping bags is prohibited, effective immediately and violations are subject to imprisonment.

Anybody with half a brain committed to conducting mayhem can conjure up dozens of ways to injure their fellow human beings until they figure out how to legislate degeneracy out of the human condition.

Don't forget- any building taller than one story, and pits- evil, evil pits and cliffs. You can't throw someone from a high place if'n there ain't no high places. Or low.

New Zealand must be perfectly flat, or there's gonna be Hell to pay.

Ladders, gotta get rid of ladders.

Tall New Zealanders, you are on notice. They're coming for you.

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Originally posted by tacfoley:

.. it's just that every time any criminal activity likes this crops up, the fall guy is always the UK.

We should be thankful for the UK.
Without it's tyranny we wouldn't exist.

left-handed compliment

Be nice, please