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Trump's comments. http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/0...ers-colin-kaepernick
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Amazing, isn't it. They are calling Trump divisive because he criticized their players for taking a knee during The National Anthem. The players, NFL owners, and NFL commissioner all are calling Trump the devisive one. “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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Maybe they figure if they ignore/downplay it long enough it will go away. Maybe so. But it may also smolder and fester until it blows up in their faces. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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I couldn't agree more. You're being paid millions to play a game not to give us your political opinion. If you want to do that, go sit on your own time. | |||
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It already has. Check again the pic of that virtually empty 49er's stadium. Also, check the Twitter comments in response to the owners comments. I posted earlier the owners aren't stupid men. I'm beginning to think I was mistaken if they can't see where this is headed. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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Wow.... I can't believe the owners are backing the protesters here. Do they want to play to empty stadiums? Actually, this demonstrates that the fans in the stands no longer matter. This is a "made for TV" so-called "sport". As long as they get the TV contracts, nothing else matters. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Unfortunately, I think you know the answer to that...
It's pretty sicking. I think it's time for people to start boycotting their biggest sponsors in addition to walking out of the stadiums. A lot of people won't stop watching the free games on TV, but they may stop spending money on merchandise. Either way they are going to lose a lot of money because of this. | |||
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"ignore/downplay" ? They are doing quite the opposite. I particularly like this one. DeMaurice Smith, executive director of the National Football League Players Association We will never back down. We no longer can afford to stick to sports. “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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Can someone please translate what he is saying there? I understand the two sentences, but given they are sticking it to the NFL by losing tv viewers, part-empty stadiums, I do not understand what he is trying to say. | |||
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I was being a bit reserved in my comments.  "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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What he's saying is.... damn the torpedoes... full speed ahead! The politics matter more than the game. The Players Association will stand with BLM and antifa, to make their "protest" regardless of the effect on the game or the cost to the league. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Seems to me the matter was downplayed in the beginning, but things festered, it did erupt, now a variety of responses from a variety of sources. I would think the NFL should have an exec meeting to first agree on, then announce, a unified policy that will not offend their customer base and that players will adhere to. But the longer the turmoil the more the damage. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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Thank you for explaining that, chellim1. | |||
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Before we start cheering the Rams vs 49ers game as some sort of visual referendum on the public's unhappiness with some players kneeling, keep it in perspective. It was a game between two shitty teams who had shit teams last year and this year is the same. 63k tickets were sold but only about half that showed up. Did they stay home because of shitty weekday traffic for a 5 PM kickoff? Protesting the NFL? Just didn't want to watch those teams in person? I'll say protesting is the reason when only that many people show up for a Cowboys vs Packers game. | |||
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I am well aware of this. Like I said, nothing will change until the owners feel the heat and make changes. Right now they are letting him steer the ship directly into an iceberg. !~God Bless the U.S. Military~! If the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off Light travels faster than sound, this is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak | |||
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From their Twitter comments it appears owners and NFL executives are in agreement. As chellim1 so eloquently stated "damn the torpedoes... full speed ahead!". They do not appear to be all that concerned about offending their customer base. This variety of responses you speak of, which owners or NFL executives have spoken out against the players for taking a knee? “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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Have Jones, Kraft, or the owner of the Colts chimed in? | |||
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The door of opportunity is wide open. Just imagine the support a team would get if the owner took to the field tomorrow, Sunday. Ladies and gentlemen, please rise with me and our entire team as we stand in greatful respect for our nation as the National Anthem is performed with pride by xxxxxx. Followed by releasing a statement that you will never tolerate any of your players showing disrespect for the nation which as blessed you with such great opportunities. “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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My guess is that team's revenues would go up. I know I would buy one of their hats, and I haven't seen an NFL game for close to 25 years. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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The attendance and tv ratings Sunday will be scrutinized. Crash and burn bitches! "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye". The Little Prince, Antoine de Saint-Exupery, pilot and author, lost on mission, July 1944, Med Theatre. | |||
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