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Here is why it was deliberately delayed Wink



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Nope. Egypt gets a lot of $$ from ships transiting. It's why they did the widening and deepening a few years ago.


I read somewhere that the fee is anywhere from $100K to $300K to go through. Plus you not only take on pilots but a bunch of other flunkys who essentially do nothing but eat and sleep.


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Does anyone think that more scrutiny if not outright restrictions will be placed on these mega-ships going through there in the future?


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Why is she called "Ever Given" when "Evergreen" is boldly painted on her sides?

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Just reported on the local tv national news broadcast that the ship has been refloated and no longer blocking flow of traffic at this time. Supossidly over 300 + ships stacked up and waiting safe passage. Moving to a wider section of the canal for inspection of possible damage to the ship ........................................... drill sgt.

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Here is why it was deliberately delayed
Ah, that picture explains a lot of things.



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My google fu not working so well right now.

Suez Canal is 120 miles long?

How long does it typically, on the average, ship size etc, take to make the transit?

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My google fu not working so well right now.

Suez Canal is 120 miles long?

How long does it typically, on the average, ship size etc, take to make the transit?

TY
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Seems the recommended speed or speed limit is about 7.5 knots/hour. The ships appear to flaunt this speed limit, and Ever Given was going over 13 knots/hour when she grounded. If they went just under 9 knots/hour, which is about 10 MPH, it'd take 12 hours.
 
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Ever Given was going over 13 knots/hour when she grounded.


I think I saw it mentioned that she was doing double the speed limit because of the wind...

Would the faster speed help navigate/steer in extreme winds?



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I think I saw it mentioned that she was doing double the speed limit because of the wind...

Would the faster speed help navigate/steer in extreme winds?


I believe steering is more effective the faster a ship moves through the water.


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Would the faster speed help navigate/steer in extreme winds?


Absolutely. It helps in any condition really. Frankly, 7.5 knots is slow, particularly for these ships, and would decrease maneuvering performance. When approaching a turn for instance at that slow speed, the captain would want to increase RPM's or prop pitch in order to give himself more maneuverability. Water over the rudder is like wind over a wing.


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My google fu not working so well right now.

Suez Canal is 120 miles long?

How long does it typically, on the average, ship size etc, take to make the transit?

TY
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Takes an aircraft carrier all day to pass through. Wink






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Does anyone think that more scrutiny if not outright restrictions will be placed on these mega-ships going through there in the future?


Maybe they will start to require ships of that size to have a tug escort on transit.


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I think I saw it mentioned that she was doing double the speed limit because of the wind...

Would the faster speed help navigate/steer in extreme winds?


I believe steering is more effective the faster a ship moves through the water.


True to a point, but the problem is that in this case the ship has to follow a fixed path. A ship that large going a few knots faster isn’t very maneuverable or responsive at any speed, much less a few knots faster or slower. You have to follow the canal; you can’t really turn into the wind, especially if it’s gusty and coming from the side.

Also, regarding speed, the ships go in a line as in most places, like this particular area, there isn’t any passing because the canal is too narrow. The Ever Given can only go as fast as the ship in front of it. The entire line of ships was probably moving at a faster speed, which would probably have been of more benefit to the smaller ships.
 
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Here is why it was deliberately delayed Wink



quote:
Originally posted by LS1 GTO:

Nope. Egypt gets a lot of $$ from ships transiting. It's why they did the widening and deepening a few years ago.


I read somewhere that the fee is anywhere from $100K to $300K to go through. Plus you not only take on pilots but a bunch of other flunkys who essentially do nothing but eat and sleep.


It costs $1 million for the largest freighters to go through the Panama Canal.......and to think, we gave the canal back to Panama for no reason at all.
 
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...and to think, we gave the canal back to Panama for no reason at all.

It is probably more accurate to say we gave the canal back for some baksheesh to some politicians. Things weren’t really any purer then than they are now. Sigh...
 
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They were talking about the ship being freed on The Today Show this morning. I was surprised to hear there were nearly 100K animals on board the ship. That sounds like A LOT! Is that routine for a ship of this size?
 
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They were talking about the ship being freed on The Today Show this morning. I was surprised to hear there were nearly 100K animals on board the ship. That sounds like A LOT! Is that routine for a ship of this size?

I read that the animals were on other ships whose paths were blocked by the Ever Given and not on the Ever Given itself.
 
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Information on the Ever Given’s engine:

https://jalopnik.com/the-ever-...el-engine-1846576248

79,500 HP 11 cylinder two-stroke diesel that turns at 79 rpm.
 
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