The two I have now are Kidde and that's probably what I'll get for replacements, but do you guys have any other recommendations?

Boss,

There was a huge Kidde extinguisher recall. I'd be careful on what you get. Just sayin'.

Linky

H&K-Guy

I have several AMEREX Halotron units.
They are rated for A, B and C class fires.

2.5 lb for kitchen and auto.

5 lb for garage/shop.

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Originally posted by H&K-Guy:
There was a huge Kidde extinguisher recall.

Linky

H&K-Guy

There was a time when I was delivering Kiddes like crazy even a few months after the recall had been announced. It was like they were on sale or something. Nearly everytime, I'd deliver the extinguisher(s) and two or three days later would return to pick them up for return. It's been about a year and I haven't delivered a single one.

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I have several AMEREX Halotron units.
They are rated for A, B and C class fires.

2.5 lb for kitchen and auto.

5 lb for garage/shop.

^^^^^^^^^^^^
My brother is a firefighter. Reccomends the same as the Monkey.

Badger, or anything with a metal valve.....not kidde

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
I have several AMEREX Halotron units.
They are rated for A, B and C class fires.

2.5 lb for kitchen and auto.

5 lb for garage/shop.

On Amazon their description says they are rated for "B", and "C" fires, does that automatically make them rated for "A" fires?

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Originally posted by Warhorse:

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
I have several AMEREX Halotron units.
They are rated for A, B and C class fires.

2.5 lb for kitchen and auto.

5 lb for garage/shop.

On Amazon their description says they are rated for "B", and "C" fires, does that automatically make them rated for "A" fires?

No BC fire extinguishers are carbon dioxide and put out oil and grease type fires, they don't do a good job with A fires (carpet, fabrics etc.). ABC is a dry chemical fire extinguisher that works on A as well as BC but makes a huge mess of powder when you use them.

What about checking with a fire safety supply store (if there is one locally, that is)? Years ago I bought some extinguishers from such a store and this thread reminded me to check all the gauges. So far so good.

The facility I got mine from does all the extinguisher recharging for the local schools, official buildings, etc. The extinguishers I got for the home are bigger than what is sold at Home Depot, Lowe's, Wal-Mart, etc., and they can be recharged. Unfortunately it's been so long that I don't remember what I paid for the extinguishers, or how much it costs to get them recharged.

I also use Amerex fire extinguishers. I keep a few 5 lb. ABC units around.

I picked them up here (they have free shipping).

https://amerexfireextinguishers.com/

Rule of thumb. Any extinguisher w/o a hose is useless. So don't get one of the tiny ones that just mounts to the wall and only has a little nub that it sprays from.

A good 5-10lb ABC extinguisher will work well for most applications. I also recommend a small CO2 extinguisher for the kitchen. This can help put out small oven or pan fires (Disclaimer: Always try to cover the fire first to put it out, if that doesn't work don't get too close with the extinguisher or you'll blow flaming oil everywhere) without getting powder everywhere. And assuming the food isn't well done after you can still eat it. The key is, if you get a CO2 extinguisher make sure that everyone in the home that is capable of using it, knows what it is and is not supposed to be used for, that way they don't accidentally go for that one for something it shouldn't be used for.

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:

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Originally posted by Warhorse:

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
I have several AMEREX Halotron units.
They are rated for A, B and C class fires.

2.5 lb for kitchen and auto.

5 lb for garage/shop.

On Amazon their description says they are rated for "B", and "C" fires, does that automatically make them rated for "A" fires?

No BC fire extinguishers are carbon dioxide and put out oil and grease type fires, they don't do a good job with A fires (carpet, fabrics etc.). ABC is a dry chemical fire extinguisher that works on A as well as BC but makes a huge mess of powder when you use them.

Halotron is a liquid that "boils off" rapidly, (about 80*F) but not so fast that is is not useful for the three class of fires most encountered.

It is effective on A.

After dealing with one auto fire using Purple-K and one oil fire, with dry powder, and multiple aircraft fires using Halon, I know how Halotron will function. (same as Halon, which is very difficult to get)

Most fires folks encounter are either going to be extinguished by a good fire extinguisher or you will be standing at the curb when the guys in big red trucks arrive.

Any Class A, B or C that cannot be handled by one of these, could not be handled by other agents of a similar bottle size.

Amazon is not a testing nor certification body, it's just a venue to buy stuff.

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Originally posted by H&K-Guy:
Boss,

There was a huge Kidde extinguisher recall. I'd be careful on what you get. Just sayin'.

Linky

H&K-Guy

Yup.

And I have still yet to receive my replacements!
https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...935/m/3710016234/p/1

I gave up and bought a couple First Alerts

Costco has the Kiddie A-B-C extinguishers for like 15.00 every few months. Along with carbon monoxide and smoke detectors.

AMEREX B402

This what the airport, my wife works at, uses for tenant hangers.

2.5lb ABC metal valve

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:

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Originally posted by Warhorse:

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
I have several AMEREX Halotron units.
They are rated for A, B and C class fires.

2.5 lb for kitchen and auto.

5 lb for garage/shop.

On Amazon their description says they are rated for "B", and "C" fires, does that automatically make them rated for "A" fires?

No BC fire extinguishers are carbon dioxide and put out oil and grease type fires, they don't do a good job with A fires (carpet, fabrics etc.). ABC is a dry chemical fire extinguisher that works on A as well as BC but makes a huge mess of powder when you use them.

Halotron is a liquid that "boils off" rapidly, (about 80*F) but not so fast that is is not useful for the three class of fires most encountered.

It is effective on A.

After dealing with one auto fire using Purple-K and one oil fire, with dry powder, and multiple aircraft fires using Halon, I know how Halotron will function. (same as Halon, which is very difficult to get)

Most fires folks encounter are either going to be extinguished by a good fire extinguisher or you will be standing at the curb when the guys in big red trucks arrive.

Any Class A, B or C that cannot be handled by one of these, could not be handled by other agents of a similar bottle size.

Amazon is not a testing nor certification body, it's just a venue to buy stuff.

One would think Amazon would "echo" what the manufacturer has rated their particular fire extinguishers at. Maybe they are not "officially" rated for class "A" fires.
Edited to add the manufacturers description:Safety Products , Dependable Drawn Steel Cylinders- All Metal Valve Construction- EPA approved -Clean Agent- for Class A- B and C hazards- Low GWP -Global Warming Potential- Low ODP -Ozone Depleting Potential- Short atmospheric lifetime- Leaves no residue- Maximum visibility during discharge- No electrical conductivity back to the operator- No thermal or static shock- Bar Coded and Bi-Lingual Labels- Manufactured and tested to ANSI-UL Standards- ISO-9001-2000-ISO-14002-2004 Certified- UL listed and USCG-

Mr. Monkey was right...again.

I have two Halon units. One is a 1301 and the other is a 1211. I have no idea what the difference is, but its clearly marked on each. I detest the dry chemical ones because of the mess they make and their tendency to cake up into an internal clump. Then they don't work.

In my jeep I keep Halon and dry chemical. Simple rule, for a fire on my jeep I use the halon. Someone else's or a strangers, I try to use the dry chem. Simple economics, the Halon is expensive. I look like I'm helping with the dry chemical, but I'm a tight ass and don't want to waste the expensive and hard to get stuff. Maybe if someone looks trapped and will roast I might make a different choice.

I've never seen anyone offer to reimburse for the fire extinguisher used to help them. They should, but they don't.

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Originally posted by rburg:
I have two Halon units. One is a 1301 and the other is a 1211. I have no idea what the difference is,

1211 comes out as a liquid stream, 1301 comes out as a gas, similar to CO2.

I have Kidde, but they all have metal heads and can be recharged.

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:

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Originally posted by Warhorse:

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
I have several AMEREX Halotron units.
They are rated for A, B and C class fires.

2.5 lb for kitchen and auto.

5 lb for garage/shop.

On Amazon their description says they are rated for "B", and "C" fires, does that automatically make them rated for "A" fires?

No BC fire extinguishers are carbon dioxide and put out oil and grease type fires, they don't do a good job with A fires (carpet, fabrics etc.). ABC is a dry chemical fire extinguisher that works on A as well as BC but makes a huge mess of powder when you use them.

Halotron is a liquid that "boils off" rapidly, (about 80*F) but not so fast that is is not useful for the three class of fires most encountered.

It is effective on A.

After dealing with one auto fire using Purple-K and one oil fire, with dry powder, and multiple aircraft fires using Halon, I know how Halotron will function. (same as Halon, which is very difficult to get)

Most fires folks encounter are either going to be extinguished by a good fire extinguisher or you will be standing at the curb when the guys in big red trucks arrive.

Any Class A, B or C that cannot be handled by one of these, could not be handled by other agents of a similar bottle size.

Amazon is not a testing nor certification body, it's just a venue to buy stuff.

I'm not sure what the Amazon is not a testing nor certification body statement is about. But, my career demands that I take a fire fighting class including putting out fires in a burn room at a Fire academy for 3 days every 5 years. I am well versed on most all types of fire fighting agents and automatic systems. Halon, Seafire and other fire systems.

That being said a Class A fire is: Wood, paper, trash, plastic, etc.


Halotron only carries a Class A rating in the 11 lb and 15 lb sizes, which is much larger than what most people have in their house and car. Halotron fire extinguishers smaller than 11 lb's are NOT class A rated, while they may work on that, because they are not large enough to work on class A, they are not rated for it. Halotron works by sucking out the oxygen part of the fire triangle. The majority of portable Class ABC fire extinguishers (10 lbs or less) are dry chemical (which makes a huge mess by smothering the fire). The majority of portable BC fire extinguishers are Carbon Dioxide (also starving the fire for oxygen).

Here is Amerex's table for reference:

https://fireextinguisherdepot....inguisher-guide.html

I still deal with some Halon automatic fire suppression systems from time to time on yachts. BUT, it's been a VERY long time since you could buy a Halon system. The old Halon automatic systems are grandfathered in if you have one, provided the pressure is in the correct range and they're inspected at least every 5 years. Lose pressure or not inspected and you have to replace with something current such as FM 200.