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A gender reveal may not be something I’m interested in, but if it makes the parents happy I’m not gonna get wrapped around the axle about it.
Someone died, Einstein. In another case, these fools started a forest fire. There have been other instances of death, property damage, etc. There is nothing good about this silly shit.

It's idiotic, narcissistic, and any man involved in this shit ought to just turn his balls over to his woman. It's shameful behavior for a man to be part of this stuff.

But, no, no need to get "wrapped around the axle" at the immeasurable levels of narcissism in our society. No, it's cool. Yeah, that'll help. Roll Eyes
 
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I read somewhere that he realized he was way too low and suddenly tried to pull up but the wings couldn’t handle the maneuver?


Somwehere? A physical newspaper? Link, my guy!




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I read somewhere that he realized he was way too low and suddenly tried to pull up but the wings couldn’t handle the maneuver?


Somwehere? A physical newspaper? Link, my guy!


The slower one is going the less lift the wing can produce. Just prior to stall in level flight the wing only produces 1g. Pulling a wing off happens at high speeds. The wing appeared to curl back as it folded up. That is perhaps unusual. It could be an overstress event if his speed were high enough, but if he indeed were slow and near stall there is no way to break the wing unless there was a really big defect such as corrosion or crack.

It isn't clear from the video if the pitch up or the wing failure began first.
 
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But we do know that it's a girl, which, of course, is the most important thing.
 
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All of this effort, and we might be misgendering the baby. For all we know, she’s one of the many letters from the alphabet people.



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A gender reveal may not be something I’m interested in, but if it makes the parents happy I’m not gonna get wrapped around the axle about it.
Someone died, Einstein. In another case, these fools started a forest fire. There have been other instances of death, property damage, etc. There is nothing good about this silly shit.

It's idiotic, narcissistic, and any man involved in this shit ought to just turn his balls over to his woman. It's shameful behavior for a man to be part of this stuff.

But, no, no need to get "wrapped around the axle" at the immeasurable levels of narcissism in our society. No, it's cool. Yeah, that'll help. Roll Eyes


I had a response but what's the point? Umbrage gotta umbrage.
 
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Yeah, you always have a response, and it seems like better than 95% of the time, it's some contrary bullshit. Almost always against the current. Being your own man, thinking for yourself- that's one thing, but always taking a contrary stance- that's something else. It's funny how it's always in response to a prevailing opinion, and never an initial comment. It's almost as if you're waiting to see what might be said, and then you know what stance to take.

Don't worry, though. You're not the only one around here who does that stuff. It's old hat.
 
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This is all due to social media, all these social media addicted women are determined to one-up each other on Instagram, TikTok and Facebook.


Yup. And it’s the stupidest fucking shit I have ever seen. You and your wife healthy? Doctor says pregnancy looks good and healthy? Be grateful, be humble, and be happy.

These people have no lives outside of marketing. Don’t believe the hype it’s a sequel.



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A good friend of mine is a Captain in the Coast Guard and flies planes for them. He made the following remarks when we were talking about this incident earlier:

"Shit, yeah wings don't normally do that until you put too much stress on them like pulling too many G's witha heavy load in an attempt to offload all your pink water for a BS gender reveal.

A C-130 had that happen to it doing a significantly greater mission trying to drop water on a forest fire. It's called the center wing box, and stress on it it's no joke."

The aforementioned video of the C-130:

https://www.military.com/video...rashes/3152191853001


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That particular C-130 was a 1957 vintage A Model that never received a recommended upgrade to the wings and fuselage. It had been through about 10 different users and had incomplete service records. The NTSB found cracks in the wing structures during its analysis relating the accident.

https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=54968

Anybody whose watch a crop-duster at work has seen them pull way more Gs, so to speak than during this drop, which aren't that many. If Stearmans and the original Ag Cats, which were biplanes, could do it a modern AG Cat will have no issues.
 
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That plane was a Piper Pawnee, obsolete here for years. Think a Supercub with the wing on the bottom. When they get old they go to Mexico. Much like medical equipment and Chevy Suburbans. Years of hauling fertilizer and pest/herbacide chemicals don't play well with steel.

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Post-partum remark commonly heard in rural Ireland - 'Is it a boy or a child?'
 
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Doing dangerous things for noble reasons is to be applauded. Doing dangerous things for irresponsible reasons is to be shunned and reckless people should be shamed. These selfish assholes never think about the danger they place others in, it’s all about themselves.
 
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Doing dangerous things for noble reasons is to be applauded. Doing dangerous things for irresponsible reasons is to be shunned and reckless people should be shamed. These selfish assholes never think about the danger they place others in, it’s all about themselves.
I was trying to think of the right words to express my thoughts about this. You did it for me. Thank you.

I will add that you, as a professional aviator, are keenly aware that things in aviation can turn deadly in an instant, even with thorough planning and careful execution of the plan. Deliberate risk-taking or show-boating is, in my opinion, among the dumbest shit that man (woman, too) has devised. In more than fifty years as a commercial pilot and flight instructor, I never once had the urge to say "Hold my beer."



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Not a fan of gender reveal nonsense.

That said, in the Mexico incident I have a hard time judging the speed of the aircraft going into the pull-up. It seems like one of two things happened: A) The pilot was operating the aircraft within the appropriate envelope and a mechanical problem (corrosion?) caused the wing to fail at a much lower load than designed, or B) The pilot was operating the aircraft outside the envelope and broke it. In either case, if that pilot regularly flew that aircraft, the same thing likely would have happened sooner or later. We probably just wouldn’t have heard about it since there was no “gender reveal” stupidity involved.

Maneuvering Speed, or Va, is the speed at which for a given weight the airplane will stall before it receives structural damage from an abrupt movement of the controls. In this case, stalling is a good thing, as it is much easier to recover from a stall than from a broken airplane.

This might be a good teaching video if one could keep the student focused on the idea that “showboating” or “buzzing” is a bad idea and one should take care to stay within the VG (velocity and G or G-loading) limits on the aircraft and ignore the gender reveal stupidity. “See kiddies, this is why you shouldn’t do dumb things in an aircraft. You might get away with it once or twice, but there’s a high likelihood that you’ll end up in an NTSB report, if not in a video that doesn’t make your choices look wise.”
 
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“See kiddies, this is why you shouldn’t do dumb things in an aircraft. You might get away with it once or twice, but there’s a high likelihood that you’ll end up in an NTSB report, if not in a video that doesn’t make your choices look wise.”
Or the morgue.

I may be wrong, but isn't the minimum altitude flying over populated areas around 500-1,000 feet? Did he need/did he receive permission to fly this low?


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I may be wrong, but isn't the minimum altitude flying over populated areas around 500-1,000 feet? Did he need/did he receive permission to fly this low?
Here is the applicable section of the regulations:
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§ 91.119 Minimum safe altitudes: General.

Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the following altitudes:

(a) Anywhere. An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an emergency landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the surface.

(b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of 2,000 feet of the aircraft.

(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.



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The one on pg 3, was also in Mexico, where the regs may differ/not apply.




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I'm not sure how you can have a gender reveal party before the child has had a chance to pick its gender........ Big Grin


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