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Originally posted by PASig:
There was another incident recently with this couple that built what was essentially a large pipe bomb with a pink or blue powder inside and it actually killed one of the grandmothers-to-be when it exploded.

then there was the imbecile in Arizona who started the 45,000 acre Sawmill Fire 2 years ago with a gender reveal explosive setup on dry grasslands.

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Originally posted by Otto Pilot:

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
I just called my parents when we knew which sex they were.

"Collect call from Mr. Bob Weaddababyeetzaboy"

Or am I the only one who remembers that ad? LOL

Hahahaha! Mrs DF and I say that all the time!

What’s the next phase of society / culture that follows the look at me phase? Hopefully some sanity returns.

Bahhaha, I'm sure it'll be an uncomfortable conversation between the pilot / aircraft owner and their aircraft insurance rep.

I’m on the way to one of these parties right now. No planes, but there will be colored pyrotechnics that I helped the new dad set up.

Hell, it fits with me. Plus, I know what I’m doing enough to avoid killing someone or starting a fire.

When he first invited me to his “gender reveal” party, I thought it was for him. I told him that I would accept him no matter what he decides.

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Originally posted by darthfuster:

...Gender is for language and grammar.

Yes! Thank you.



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I don't get any of this. When my wife and I had our son, we didn't know (for sure) what we were having until he was born. We enjoyed the excitement (if you will) of not knowing until he actually arrived.

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Originally posted by Jimbo54:

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Originally posted by Strambo:
I was expecting a Piper Cub or a tiny "sport" plane. What an idiot pilot, that turbine crop-duster is quite capable and probably has a very low stall speed.

He should have been dropping gender reveal pipe-bombs instead then parachuted in and shot people with pink paint balls in a gender-reveal raid!

Not me. 350 gal. of water weighs over 2,800 lb. That takes some serious power to even get off of ground.

Jim

Ayup. I dunno what the max gross weight of a J-3 is (and am too lazy to go look it up), but a Bellanca Super Decathon (similar planform, larger, more than twice the horsepower) has an 1800 max gross weight.

I didn’t realize the Air Tractors could handle that much of a payload. Impressive.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
I don't get any of this. When my wife and I had our son, we didn't know (for sure) what we were having until he was born. We enjoyed the excitement (if you will) of not knowing until he actually arrived.

This. My wife and I agreed that there are to few surprises anymore and we’d “wait and see what we got.”

These gender reveals are just as dumb as couples showers. When I see a grown man drug into that I just roll my eyes and say to myself wow he is going to have a full life of being drug around by his ear.

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Originally posted by slosig:

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Originally posted by Jimbo54:

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Originally posted by Strambo:
I was expecting a Piper Cub or a tiny "sport" plane. What an idiot pilot, that turbine crop-duster is quite capable and probably has a very low stall speed.

He should have been dropping gender reveal pipe-bombs instead then parachuted in and shot people with pink paint balls in a gender-reveal raid!

Not me. 350 gal. of water weighs over 2,800 lb. That takes some serious power to even get off of ground.

Jim

Ayup. I dunno what the max gross weight of a J-3 is (and am too lazy to go look it up), but a Bellanca Super Decathon (similar planform, larger, more than twice the horsepower) has an 1800 max gross weight.

I didn’t realize the Air Tractors could handle that much of a payload. Impressive.

AT 602 specs:

12,500 # takeoff weight
12,000 # landing weight
6,900# useful load
630 gal hopper capacity
216 gal fuel
1,050 SHP PT-6-60AG

I have time in the junior varsity version AT502; honest and great flying work tool. Like all aircraft, it demands respect.

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Originally posted by Otto Pilot:

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
I just called my parents when we knew which sex they were.

"Collect call from Mr. Bob Weaddababyeetzaboy"

Or am I the only one who remembers that ad? LOL

My favorite one!

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Originally posted by Jimbo54:

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Originally posted by Strambo:
I was expecting a Piper Cub or a tiny "sport" plane. What an idiot pilot, that turbine crop-duster is quite capable and probably has a very low stall speed.

He should have been dropping gender reveal pipe-bombs instead then parachuted in and shot people with pink paint balls in a gender-reveal raid!

Not me. 350 gal. of water weighs over 2,800 lb. That takes some serious power to even get off of ground.

Jim

The article is badly reported.

It's an AT-602, with a 600 gallon hopper. It's designed to do this. The notion that a "gender reveal" somehow changes this fact is irrelevant . It's an airplane built and designed to dump liquids at low altitudes.

The 602 comes in one and two pilot cockpits. I have a number of years of flying these airplanes. You can't put two people in the single pilot cockpit. I doubt there were two in a single pilot 602; more than likely it was a two-seat airplane. They look similar.

Why it crashed is unknown, but the article offers nothing useful, and the suggestion that a "gender reveal" had anything to do with the mishap is ridiculous. It also implies that an unqualified person was doing the drop; an unqualified person couldn't have got the engine started leg alone unlocked the tailwheel or started taxiing, and wouldn't have made it to the runway.

Depending on the dump gate, some of the older transland systems produce a significant pitch-up moment, even without dropping a load.

I frequently fly an AT-802 with an 800 gallon airplane (same flight characteristics, just a bigger hopper, bigger engine; I salvo drop 800 gallons regularly. It can be done safely. There's nothing unusual or difficult about dropping 300 gallons from an AT602.

There's clearly more to the story, which is chasing the tail of a dog that doesn't exist.

I was gonna made a "gender fluid" joke but it's just too easy.

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
Why it crashed is unknown, but the article offers nothing useful, and the suggestion that a "gender reveal" had anything to do with the mishap is ridiculous.

Oh, really? Well, in that case, can you tell us why this plane was planning to dump 350 gallons of pink-colored water? Get real, man. How can you possibly say that the gender reveal nonsense has nothing to do with this? It has everything to do with this. Otherwise, please tell us upon what was the plane dumping 350 gallons of pink-colored water.

I swear, I simply do not understand what goes through your head sometimes. I do not understand how you think. So, please, do tell us the purpose of the 350 gallons of pink-colored water. Were they dusting cotton candy crops? Hydrating unicorns? Putting out a Smurf fire?

I think this is the third time in the past few weeks that you've made statements which I simply cannot fathom. Just bizarre, man. Really bizarre.

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:

...and the suggestion that a "gender reveal" had anything to do with the mishap is ridiculous.

Wow. The whole point here kind of flew right over your head, didn't it?

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:

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Originally posted by Jimbo54:

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Originally posted by Strambo:
I was expecting a Piper Cub or a tiny "sport" plane. What an idiot pilot, that turbine crop-duster is quite capable and probably has a very low stall speed.

He should have been dropping gender reveal pipe-bombs instead then parachuted in and shot people with pink paint balls in a gender-reveal raid!

Not me. 350 gal. of water weighs over 2,800 lb. That takes some serious power to even get off of ground.

Jim

The article is badly reported.

It's an AT-602, with a 600 gallon hopper. It's designed to do this. The notion that a "gender reveal" somehow changes this fact is irrelevant . It's an airplane built and designed to dump liquids at low altitudes.

The 602 comes in one and two pilot cockpits. I have a number of years of flying these airplanes. You can't put two people in the single pilot cockpit. I doubt there were two in a single pilot 602; more than likely it was a two-seat airplane. They look similar.

Why it crashed is unknown, but the article offers nothing useful, and the suggestion that a "gender reveal" had anything to do with the mishap is ridiculous. It also implies that an unqualified person was doing the drop; an unqualified person couldn't have got the engine started leg alone unlocked the tailwheel or started taxiing, and wouldn't have made it to the runway.

Depending on the dump gate, some of the older transland systems produce a significant pitch-up moment, even without dropping a load.

I frequently fly an AT-802 with an 800 gallon airplane (same flight characteristics, just a bigger hopper, bigger engine; I salvo drop 800 gallons regularly. It can be done safely. There's nothing unusual or difficult about dropping 300 gallons from an AT602.

There's clearly more to the story, which is chasing the tail of a dog that doesn't exist.

In the article the pilot stated the plane “got too slow” and then entered into an “aerodynamic stall”.

Did you even read the article?

When Bald Bryan, from The Adam Carolla Show, and his wife did their gender reveal, they just took the envelope to a frozen yogurt place, gave it to the guy at the counter and had him do it. If it's a boy, put blueberries at the bottom, if its a girl, strawberry. Nobody got hurt, nothing exploded, it was a fun afternoon.

This is just retarded and excessive.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Oh, really? Well, in that case, can you tell us why this plane was planning to dump 350 gallons of pink-colored water? Get real, man. How can you possibly say that the gender reveal nonsense has nothing to do with this? It has everything to do with this. Otherwise, please tell us upon what was the plane dumping 350 gallons of pink-colored water.

I swear, I simply do not understand what goes through your head sometimes. I do not understand how you think. So, please, do tell us the purpose of the 350 gallons of pink-colored water. Were they dusting cotton candy crops? Hydrating unicorns? Putting out a Smurf fire?

I think this is the third time in the past few weeks that you've made statements which I simply cannot fathom. Just bizarre, man. Really bizarre.

Truly remarkable.

An ag airplane, designed and built from the ground up for dropping water and chemical, drops 300 gallons of water. This is the purpose for which it was built, bought, and flown.

Because the water is pink, this becomes the cause of the crash?

It doesn't matter if it's being dropped on a fire, a crop, a training target, or any other purpose. A drop is a drop.

The fact that the water was pink somehow makes it pointless, dangerous, or somehow changes the nature of the drop?

What goes through my head when I consider a drop from an air tractor? Decades of having done it in forest fires, mountains, flatland, urban areas, rural areas, air shows, you name it. In numerous air tractors, thruses, pawnees, ag trucks, dromaders, yada, yada, yada. That's what goes through my mind.

What I can't fathom is what the hell the color of the water has to do with anything. Perhaps you're trying to say that the flight wouldn't have occurred if it hadn't been for the "gender reveal." Well, yes, it would. It may not have been pink water. It may have been clear water, cloudy water, red retardant, surfactant-infused soap water, or whatever the flight called for on a given day. Low altitude flight? These aren't made for high altitude flight. Dropping water? That's why they have a 600 gallon hopper with a dump handle to salvo the load. It's their purpose.

But somehow the fact that the water is pink changes everything. Good god.

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
Because the water is pink, this becomes the cause of the crash?

OK, if you're actually going to act that obtuse, you're going to piss me off. I refuse to believe that you are this dense.

The color of the water is significant only in that it indicates the frivolous, ridiculous, pointless and wholly unnecessary purpose of the flight. Seriously, stop behaving this way. Stop acting as if this is your first day on planet Earth.

I would suggest to you that you refrain from any further posting in this thread, because you are about to end up on moderated status. Stop acting like you can't comprehend the obvious. Just get out of my thread and stay out of it.

This isn't the first time you've pulled this crap with me, and I'll tell you right now that we are not going to continue playing these cutesy games. Pull this stupid shit with someone else. This is unbecoming of anyone with a triple digit IQ. Really, it is.