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No. You said that all states should be "shall issue". My statement is that there should be no issuing at all - that we can carry without the permission of the govt. You don't need to ask permission when it's a right. This is where my signature goes. | |||
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I never said that the dickhead politicians went pro gun! I simply said we have it and to me that is all the matters. That said, a few years ago they did pass a bill legalizing both short barreled rifles (with restrictions) and the sale and carrying of auto knives. Both of which amazed me! ------------------------------------- Always the pall bearer, never the corpse. | |||
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SCOTUS just published its decision pertaining to this case. In it "The court holds that New York's "proper-cause" requirement to obtain a concealed-carry license violates the Constitution by preventing law-abiding citizens with ordinary self-defense needs from exercising their Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms in public for self-defense." Link to SCOTUS Docket: https://www.supremecourt.gov/o...1pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf | |||
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| Run Silent Run Deep  |
Conclusion from the opinion: The constitutional right to bear arms in public for self- defense is not “a second-class right, subject to an entirely different body of rules than the other Bill of Rights guaran- tees.” McDonald, 561 U. S., at 780 (plurality opinion). We know of no other constitutional right that an individual may exercise only after demonstrating to government officers some special need. That is not how the First Amend- ment works when it comes to unpopular speech or the free exercise of religion. It is not how the Sixth Amendment works when it comes to a defendant’s right to confront the witnesses against him. And it is not how the Second Amendment works when it comes to public carry for self-defense. New York’s proper-cause requirement violates the Four- teenth Amendment in that it prevents law-abiding citizens with ordinary self-defense needs from exercising their right to keep and bear arms. We therefore reverse the judgment of the Court of Appeals and remand the case for further proceedings consistent with this opinion. It is so ordered. _____________________________ Pledge allegiance or pack your bag! The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money. - Margaret Thatcher Spread my work ethic, not my wealth | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Awesome. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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| Ignored facts still exist |
I am so happy about this. . | |||
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| Staring back from the abyss  |
I almost wish I still lived in NY so I could watch leftist heads explode.  This is great news. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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So does this make every state "Constitutional Carry". No license/no permit? Hedley Lamarr: Wait, wait, wait. I'm unarmed. Bart: Alright, we'll settle this like men, with our fists. Hedley Lamarr: Sorry, I just remembered . . . I am armed. | |||
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Striker in waiting |
No. Licensing/permit systems are still okay, but all of the "may issue" states are effectively "shall issue". Might take a couple more lawsuits to enforce it in the offending states, and I'm sure the "shall issue" bit will be enhanced with more hurdles, but they'll have to be objective tests. No more subjective "why do you need it" bullshit. -Rob I predict that there will be many suggestions and statements about the law made here, and some of them will be spectacularly wrong. - jhe888 A=A | |||
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Hallelujah!!! | |||
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| Serenity now! |
Great news for freedom! ------------------------------------------------ 9/11/01 Never Forget "In valor there is hope" - Tacitus | |||
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| Conveniently located directly above the center of the Earth  |
So then, what does this portend for future 'red flag' cases? | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
And, in his concurring opinion, Justice Alito Absolutely EVISCERATES the 'dissent'! Just Sayin... ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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| I have not yet begun to procrastinate |
About freaking time!! -------- After the game, the King and the pawn go into the same box. | |||
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This is huge. Does this mean that all states will become “shall issue”? I read the summary, and it seems that way. I love the smack-down that Alito gave in his concurring opinion to the dissent.
Ha ha, in your face, Breyer. Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus | |||
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Irksome Whirling Dervish |
This holding is a great win but it's not a Get Out Of Jail card that has wiped out gun laws nationwide. Your right to self defense exists outside of the house but states will still be allowed or permitted to conduct background checks and limit magazine capacity and likely open carry too. The Supremes remanded the case back down for further proceedings so this isn't completely over. More to come and with the NY governor bsaying she's going to either fight the decision, more rulings are going to come. My best guess is that government can perform a background check and limit mag capacity and likely open carry but beyond that, today's ruling is only a very directed guideline. | |||
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Plowing straight ahead come what may |
Hey democrats…how does the “shit sammach” taste?…better get used to it, a “Golden Corral” all you can eat buffet menu is coming in November ******************************************************** "we've gotta roll with the punches, learn to play all of our hunches Making the best of what ever comes our way Forget that blind ambition and learn to trust your intuition Plowing straight ahead come what may And theres a cowboy in the jungle" Jimmy Buffet | |||
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| Striker in waiting |
All true, but for those of us in the half dozen "may issue" (effectively no-issue) states, the nightmare is over. Maryland's General Assembly won't be back in session until January, so no new hurdles until well into next spring. For those of us here, this ruling should mean that new applications will be processed without regard to Maryland's "good and substantial reason" requirement, and essentially be unlimited for now. I'll take it! -Rob I predict that there will be many suggestions and statements about the law made here, and some of them will be spectacularly wrong. - jhe888 A=A | |||
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| As Extraordinary as Everyone Else  |
This just came across my screen! This is perhaps one of the best days for law abiding gun folks in several decades! Although I had some issues with Trump and his Twitter obsession you have to give him credit where credit is due. Appointing the 3 Supreme Court justices is the most important accomplishment of his term in office. ------------------ Eddie Our Founding Fathers were men who understood that the right thing is not necessarily the written thing. -kkina | |||
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