I recall the smoking dope thing, I didn't know he was that nuts.

I cant believe this happened almost 7 years ago.

I think someone already post this but I will do so again.

This thread is about an ex-member Cliff WMS and not Cliff The Velvet Voice Box.

I recall crazy Cliff very well, and how the boss kept him on a string for a while. IIRC, Para even gave him some rope to hang himself by, and Cliff didn't disappoint.


Like many here, I had zero idea of all the outside crap he was stirring up. For example, posting kids' names, etc. Wow.

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As I recall, in that monster thread, many of the transgressions of ol' Clifftard, to include the posting of kids' info, was cited.

I remember reading about him and thinking, "This asshole had to share a name with me." I too am sorry about the shit he was doing to you guys. I also had no idea. Fuck him. Next.

I had >>>> NO CLUE <<<< he was that far along in years. Pretty weird dude for sure.

LBJ and ScreamingCockatoo (and in turn Para and all those involved), thank you guys for posting about this. I read that stupid thread on a daily basis. I remember you guys putting up a strong fight and was disheartened when LBJ left the forum. I was happy when you came back and loved watching the evolution of the Shelby

The reason I am posting my thank you, is that I have always wondered how it ended and I appreciate you guys closing things up, I didnt even know he was dead. Para had a no more >>>><<<< and cliffy jokes and my curiousity was never equal to my fear.

Most of us use the site, are enriched and blessed by sigforum and never know that crap you guys have to put up with.

We are certainly more polite regarding him and his death than he ever was dealing with us.
Fact not fiction.

I can't believe your atty didn't try to have him charged with some kind of extortion.

I knew he went after LBJ's football team but had no idea he went after other members too. Sorry y'all had to go through that.

As far as the obit, they sure covered up what what a fizzy douche he was.

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Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
I can't believe your atty didn't try to have him charged with some kind of extortion.

You'd have to go to Federal Court.

If I had, he would have died before trial apparently.

I was on vacation when I received my first threat from him.

Hell, I only chimed in, I was not really an asshole, but that changed after he contacted me outside of the forum.

He said something about contacting my employer. Thankfully, I work for someone who would have ripped him a new ass, if he said anything bad about me.

He mentioned something about my kids, I made it clear I would go scorched earth on him, if he ever mentioned my children again.

He was a sick man.

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Originally posted by redstone:
. . .Most of us use the site, are enriched and blessed by sigforum and never know that crap you guys have to put up with.

Amen to what Redstone said. God bless you for providing and policing this space.

I stayed silent on this for a long time. I think this is the first time I have publicly taken this up.
I somehow felt the need to finish this in my head as well as inform the membership what happened to me.

And to Cliff WMS and those who helped him...
I'm still standing. So is this forum. In fact, this forum will survive me.
It's taking cancer to finish me off, none of you all could.

I remember that mess. He had to be walking backwards, because all I could see was asshole. I knew he was unhinged, I just didn't realize to what extent.

Keep up the good fight LBJ!

I vaguely remember the thread and was not involved. Guess that was good luck since that guy was nuttier than squirrel shit. What a calamity for those involved. If someone wants to piss on his grave then use www.findagrave.com for the location.

I remember that pathetic piece of shit.


What an asshole.