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That's been my take with some of these proposals, 'do any of these 'artists' have any idea of how this cathedral is built?' They're proposing ideas, while interesting, doesn't take into account that a) the occupants of the cathedral don't see the roof but, the underside of the vault, b) eliminating the vault, it eliminates the support that prevents the walls from collapsing inwards. The flying buttresses prevents the walls from collapsing outwards, while the vaults prevents the walls from collapsing inwards. | |||
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semi-reformed sailor |
^^ its almost like these people should have learned about arches, vaults and butresses' in say...history class "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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The Constable |
None of it matters. The muslims will burn it down or destroy it, when they take over anyway. | |||
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=============================================== That image looks to me like an excellent plan to totally screw up a historical monument and prime example of classical architecture. I almost wonder if this is consciously one of those thoughts about "being all new wave progressive and helping everyone forget the past" *********************** * Diligentia Vis Celeritis * *********************** "Thus those skilled in war subdue the enemy's army without battle .... They conquer by strategy." - Sun Tsu - The Art of War "Fast is Fine, but Accuracy is Everything" - Wyatt Earp | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
I would prefer to see it re-built as close to original as possible. That might mean without the spire, or possibly a smaller spire. The larger, heavier spire wasn't added until the 19th century: The cathedral's flèche (or spire), which was destroyed in the April 2019 fire, was located over the transept. The original spire was constructed in the 13th century, probably between 1220 and 1230. It was battered, weakened and bent by the wind over five centuries, and finally was removed in 1786. During the 19th-century restoration, Eugène Viollet-le-Duc decided to recreate it, making a new version of oak covered with lead. The entire spire weighed 750 tons. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Muzzle flash aficionado |
Having visited Notre Dame cathedral a number of times, my vote is to restore it as close to its prior state as possible. If Paris needs a more modern version, build another somewhere else. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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Have they even tried to track down the islamist arsonists, yet or are they still projecting their denial? | |||
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^^^^^ Have I missed some news? What do we know about arson or arsonists? Please give link to information on what you know.. Thanks *********************** * Diligentia Vis Celeritis * *********************** "Thus those skilled in war subdue the enemy's army without battle .... They conquer by strategy." - Sun Tsu - The Art of War "Fast is Fine, but Accuracy is Everything" - Wyatt Earp | |||
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Paul Joseph Watson put out a very good video on YouTube... sorry, don't have the link handy, and he is likely to be put down yt's memory hole for his views, so well worth watching before then. Additionally, a number of pages back, it was mentioned about such individuals having previously made attempts, unless I am mistaken. | |||
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SIGforum's Berlin Correspondent |
FWIW.
https://www.thelocal.fr/201905...t&utm_medium=twitter | |||
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SIGforum's Berlin Correspondent |
Article is far too long to post entirely, and also is multi-media with charts of who went where when to do what; well worth the time to read at the link though.
https://www.nytimes.com/intera...ope/notre-dame.html# And for some levity on the question of reconstruction: | |||
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Serenity now! |
Don't forget a Starbucks up there. Ladies and gentlemen, take my advice - pull down your pants and slide on the ice. ʘ ͜ʖ ʘ | |||
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Official Space Nerd |
Have you SEEN the traffic jams in Europe? No, a restoration done by 'Murica would have at least two car jump ramps ("Beginner" and " Hold My Beer"), 3 bbq joints, a Chik Fila, and a Bass Pro. . . Fear God and Dread Nought Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher | |||
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His diet consists of black coffee, and sarcasm. |
Too small for a Wal-Mart, but about right for a McDonalds. | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
For the first time since the French Revolution, there will be NO Christmas Mass at Notre Dame. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
And things are still a bit precarious apparently. Go to the link for a cool video. A rare look at restoration of Paris's Notre-Dame Cathedral Latest update : 14/12/2019 After a wildfire on April 15 that consumed its roof and spire, Paris’s Notre-Dame Cathedral is undergoing massive repair work. The site remains closed to the public but rare access inside the cathedral has been granted to see how things are coming along, and to get a sense of the task that still lies ahead. Once inside Notre-Dame, there is a quiet stillness. The floor of the nave has been cleared except for some piles of gravel. It rains inside the church. One has to look up to understand just how much work has to be done. There are gaping holes in the vaults of the ceiling, twisted piles of burned metal and wood, and at the summit, partially burned scaffolding towers overhead, still in danger of collapsing. The 300-ton structure must be reinforced before it can be taken down slowly, piece by piece, a process expected to take until June. In front of the cathedral, tents shelter much of the precious debris. Tens of thousands of pieces of stone and some metal that archeologists are in the process of restoring. But today the chief architect has a different priority. He's concerned about the vaults in the ceiling: “If we remove the burned wood and the pieces of the framing that burned, and the metal elements that accumulated since April 15th, we don't know what will happen. So today we absolutely cannot say that Notre-Dame has been saved.” https://www.france24.com/en/20...thedral-fire-rebuild ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Move Up or Move Over |
I wonder how many millions it would take to secure the film rights to film in there before the restoration? | |||
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"Wildfire." ____________________ | |||
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Official Space Nerd |
Yeah, that's rich. Fear God and Dread Nought Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher | |||
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