Good to know. Thanks for the reply.

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Originally posted by Mikito:
I ended up choosing the Bonavita over the Technivorm. Can anyone who has experience with both say which they like better?

Yes. I have a Bonavita I bought first because it was much cheaper than the Technivorm and it was highly rated by the Specialty Coffee Association.
The Bonavita did make good coffee but it couldn't keep the coffee hot. I was getting frustrated with it so I contacted the Bonavita Company. They said I must have a bad thermal carafe and would send me a replacement under warranty. They did, their customer service was fine.

While waiting for it to arrive I wandered in the Williams Sonoma store and saw a gorgeous copper color Technivorm. It went home with me.

The replacement Technivorm carafe arrived about a week later and went into the closet with the Bonavita unit and it's still there. I'm sure it will work fine if needed.

However I just really like the looks, fit and finish of my copper color Technivorm, I just get a joy using it and it is quick to make excellent coffee.

Even though I have a second Technivorm at home, if something happened like a fire or tornado, I'd go spend the extra $$$ on another Technivorm. Nothing wrong with the Bonavita performance, I just get a joy with my Technivorm that the Bonavita doesn't give me.

To me, the Bonavita is a very good $100-ish coffee maker that is a throwaway when time comes.

I can buy pretty much any part for a Technivorm and I am informed I can also send back an old one and they will rebuild and recondition it. I like that idea.

Bonavita made in China, Technivorm hand made in the Netherlands. Take your pick.

Good luck to you.

Thanks for the info everyone. I went ahead and ordered a matte black glass carafe one. It’s going to be my Christmas gift this year. I feel kind of wasteful for replacing my Behmor which makes great coffee but I just get too annoyed by the carafe dribbling all over everything. They REALLY need to revisit that design. It’ll make a good backup coffee maker if the Technivorm ever needs service or anything. I can’t wait until Christmas so I can try it out. Here’s the one that I ordered. I like the matte black...it should match my coffee grinder quite well.

https://www.amazon.com/Techniv...c=1&ref_=ya_aw_od_pi

Picked up a Technivorm Moccamaster with stainless carafe in about 2003 and took it with me to work, both ship and shore for the remainder of my military career. Always had several shipmates drinking from it and made multiple pots of coffee a day. After all those years and office duty, the Moccamaster still works good as new, but now that I'm retired, it's in retirement too. I've since picked up a Technivorm Cup One. It makes one 10 ounce cup of coffee at a time. The unit came with #1 filters and that's what Technivorm recommends but #2 filters work just as well. Some days I drink enough coffee to justify breaking out the "heavy", Moccamaster ... but most days, only drink a couple of cups, so the one cup is perfect.

Regardless, either Technivorm I choose to use, I know I'm getting the best possible cup of coffee from a drip maker.

Technivorm Moccamaster 69212 Cup One 10, 10 oz, Polished Silver ... https://www.amazon.com/Techniv..._s_ki_web_8451406011

$247!
I could buy a couple of years worth of WAWA coffee for that much $$$
I'll keep my electric Farberware

If sticker shock is a deal ... use a Melitta Pour-Over Cone. I have both plastic and ceramic ones. Works great !!! ... just that the Moccamaster is a bit more convenient and MAY make a better cup 'o joe.

Also think about how many coffee makers you've ever bought. Do they all add up to $247 ... or greater? Are you thinking about what you're going to get when that coffee maker breaks? ... another one just like it? Well, here's the deal ... With the Moccamaster, I'll NEVER have to buy another coffee maker in my life.

Another question for you guys, this time it’s concerning water. What do you all use for water to make coffee?

I’ve been using water from the tap (we are on a well and have a water softener) and to be honest it’s been the best tasting coffee I’ve ever had with my current set up. The problem with this is that we have an iron bacteria issue here and someday intend to get to the root of the problem but we can’t afford it right now. It’s going to require quite a bit of troubleshooting and can lead all the way to having to dig a new well....which is why we need to hold off for a while. Iron bacteria isn’t harmful to drink...it’s basically just a nuisance.

Due to the iron bacteria it leaves a residue in my coffee maker reservoir that I wipe out with a paper towel once a week or so. This isn’t such a big deal with my Behmor coffee maker because the only place water is at in it is the reservoir where the water gets heated up and once it’s up to temperature it goes directly into the brew basket and then the carafe.

With the Technivorm, I’m assuming that there will be water that will always be present in the heating element part and center tubing that the heated water goes through before moving onto the spray arm. I won’t be able to wipe those areas with a paper towel to clean them.

So I’ve been trying a couple of different bottled waters the last few days, and none of them are producing a good coffee. It’s lacking in a lot of flavor and almost has a bitterness to it. So I’m wondering if it’s just that I need to keep trying different bottled waters, or just stick with using my tap water since it tastes so good and use cleaners like cleancaf and dezcal on a more regular basis.

Any advice is greatly appreciated.

I would try a Brita filter first to see how it works. Not a huge investment and removes many heavy metals so it may be worth a try. I used one for quite a few years and the coffee was good.

Just a curiosity question, can you program the Technivorm?

I can't believe such a machine with such a following can't be, but it seems like there is no option to have it ready in the morning waiting for you.

As far as filtration, I just use city water, and it is not filtered beyond what they provide.

I have looked at under sink options, but haven't jumped yet.

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Originally posted by bettysnephew:
I would try a Brita filter first to see how it works. Not a huge investment and removes many heavy metals so it may be worth a try. I used one for quite a few years and the coffee was good.

I have looked into this, but unfortunately we just don’t have the space in our fridge for one of those pitchers. A good chunk is taken up with the containers that we use to thaw our dog’s food (all four of them are on a raw diet) and with the other things we typically keep in it there just isn’t much room left over for a water pitcher.

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Originally posted by Dreamerx4:
Just a curiosity question, can you program the Technivorm?

I can't believe such a machine with such a following can't be, but it seems like there is no option to have it ready in the morning waiting for you.

As far as filtration, I just use city water, and it is not filtered beyond what they provide.

I have looked at under sink options, but haven't jumped yet.

The Technivorm is about as simple as it can get. Two switches on it and that’s it. One for turning the whole thing on to start a brew cycle and the other is a toggle to control the heating element for the carafe.

I'll be going against the tide here but the Moccamaster is in the box stored in attic right now. It's not a bad machine but it did not make better coffee than the maker I was replacing(Zojirushi Zutto 5 Cup). So I'm back using the 65 dollar Zoji.

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Originally posted by bettysnephew:
I would try a Brita filter first to see how it works. Not a huge investment and removes many heavy metals so it may be worth a try. I used one for quite a few years and the coffee was good.

The pitcher models work well, but the faucet models are really handy:

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I recommend a Brita or similar as well. No need to keep it in the fridge, countertop is fine.

I think I figured out the answer to my question. Bottled spring water. We went grocery shopping this morning and I picked up a couple different brands of spring water. Ice mountain and hinckley springs. What I was trying before was purified water and I read somewhere to use spring water. I’m having a cup right now with the ice mountain brand water and it tastes great. As good, if not better than from our tap. I’ll try the hinckley springs in the pot for tomorrow morning.

My Brita always lives on the countertop. No reason to refrigerate water you are going to make coffee, just slows the process.

It has always been tap water for me but I let it sit for half a day to let any chlorine evaporate out. Multiple Nalgene bottles in rotation.

Down at the sea shore, I have brought water from the filter dispenser at the YMCA. A world of difference in coffee taste when considering 'Jersey shore water.

If it was up to me, I'd have a filtered water dispenser but in general we have excellent tap water here. Sometimes after it has been raining for a while the water company has to put extra crap in the water to neutralize the extra crap which washes into the water supply.

I use tap water for coffee and always have. Recently I tried some Walmart Great Value Purified Drinking Water. The taste was different but still a good cup. I drink several bottles of the Great Value water a day and may be one reason the taste difference wasn't so noticeable. But, if I have any concerns about the tap water, I wouldn't hesitate to use Great Value water exclusively.

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Originally posted by FloydNC:
I'll be going against the tide here but the Moccamaster is in the box stored in attic right now. It's not a bad machine but it did not make better coffee than the maker I was replacing(Zojirushi Zutto 5 Cup). So I'm back using the 65 dollar Zoji.

So, I'm curious. I'd like to try the Zojirushi but not willing to spend $70 to find out and find nothing wrong with the Moccamaster I already have. But do like how the Zojirushi looks and how it might work for me if I were looking for a drip maker, based on reviews and video found on Amazon.

I guess my questions are, if you were so happy with the Zojirushi, why did you purchase a Moccamaster only to go back to the Zojirushi? What faults or shortcomings did you find with the Zojirushi and hope to correct or improve on with the Moccamaster?

Despite what you say about the quality of the coffee made by each, I suspect the truth is a bit more complicated ... unless the charcoal filter of the Zojirushi is just something you like the taste of. Maybe it's how it looks on your kitchen counter, the size of the unit, capacity of the carafe, or some subtle nuance of use and clean up. Maybe all of that. Dunno, just a guess.

EDIT: I apologize if this post is off topic but didn't think it was since the OP mentioned water quality and the Zojirushi has a charcoal filter feature that MIGHT improve tap water quality if that was a concern. Personally I don't like anything to do with a charcoal filter and would try to use the Zojirushi without one if I had that drip maker. And would find a bottled water I liked rather than use a water filter if tap water quality was a concern.

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Originally posted by Largefarva:
Another question for you guys, this time it’s concerning water. What do you all use for water to make coffee?

Brita. We're on a well, too. We have iron, too, and manganese. We have a 20 micron sediment filter in front of the softener. I'm thinking of upgrading that to dual filters: 20 micron followed by a 5 micron.

But the water, as it currently is, filtered by the Brita, is fine for coffee. Great, in fact.

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I have looked into this, but unfortunately we just don’t have the space in our fridge for one of those pitchers.

Eh? It doesn't need to go in the fridge. Just filter water as you need it. If the cartridge is in good shape it doesn't take long. When it starts taking too long is when you need a new cartridge.

We have two Brita pitchers: One for coffee and one for drinking. The drinking one is kept in the fridge. The coffee one just sits on the counter.

Williams-Sonoma has the Moccamasters available @ 20% off (starting at $239.96 shipped) which is the lowest I've seen in some time.