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Alea iacta est |
Rogue JSK, the optic arrived and is safe and sound. Thanks for the extra battery. Works like a champ. I have to wait until next week for the optic mount to arrive. As far as astigmatism, yeah, I have one. If I focus on the dot it’s distorted. That said I have never focused on the dot. It’s the spot where the bullet goes. I can’t begin to say thank you enough. This is a beyond generous gift and I am very appreciative. Thank you.
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| Freethinker |
Your advice and experience are good to know, but unfortunately it does not work for all of us. I have long taught and tried to practice focusing on the target rather than the optic’s reticle, but doing that with my Aimpoint sights doesn’t change the “bunch of grapes” image I get when using them. After reading your comments I checked to ensure I was doing it right, i.e., making an absolute concentrated effort to focus only on the target, and the reticle was still highly distorted for me. I’d encourage everyone to try your advice because I believe target focus is the proper method of engaging close range targets quickly, but it may not correct the distorted reticle image problem for all of us. “Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.” — Plato | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
OLD THREAD ALERT So, I went looking through various threads here about what to put on the new (to me) rifle...
I was considering the Sig Tango-MSR LPVO 1-6x24mm, but came upon this close-out deal at PSA: Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x24 GEN2 Riflescope w/ AR-BDC3 Reticle - SE-1624-2 https://palmettostatearmory.co...ticle-se-1624-2.html Is the Vortex Strike Eagle still good to go? "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
The Vortex Strike Eagle is still a decent 1-6x LPVO, especially at that sale price. But it's no longer the clear best bang for the buck in its price range like it had been for years. You can do a little better (one or more of lighter/better glass/better illumination/etc.) in a similar (standard) price range nowadays with newer options like the Sig Tango MSR or Primary Arms SLx. And keep in mind when comparing prices that the Strike Eagle doesn't come with a mount, while some other options do, like the Sig Tango MSR you were looking at. | |||
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| Back, and to the left  |
I have a Trijicon TA44 1.5x mini ACOG for close in/HD work with .300BLK. I got a 1-6x Primary Arms scout scope optimized for .556 in case I ever need or want it. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
OK, thanks. They do have the deal with the mount for $219.99: https://palmettostatearmory.co...unt-2-offset-v2.html "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| Little ray of sunshine  |
I've always liked an Aimpoint. I was mainly a 3-gun shooter with my AR, and for that, it is perfect. I can hit to 100 or 120 yards easily with it. At close range, it is silly fast. They aren't $500, though. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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| Thank you Very little  |
PSA has the Holosun DRS Night Vision on sale for $699, normally $1,199. If you want real operator status, no beard, dark sun glasses or tattoo's included with purchase.  https://palmettostatearmory.co...-red-dot-drs-nv.html | |||
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| If you see me running try to keep up  |
Sounds like you should look at some of the Primary Arms optics. I have an AR that I shoot out to 1000 yards so I have a scope on it that costs as much as the rifle (the AR was close to 2k). Another AR stays in my SUV and has a $300 optic on it because that is all it needs. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Yeah, I'm in the $250 cheap range. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Drill Here, Drill Now |
As a reference, in 2024 I paid $250 for that mount with the 1-8x version. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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Raptorman |
I use a Meprolight M21 on my 733 and it's been perfect. However I PREFER the irons as they aren't made of GLASS. ____________________________ Eeewwww, don't touch it! Here, poke at it with this stick. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
That sounds even better... Is there much difference between the 1-6x version and the 1-8x version? "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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| Drill Here, Drill Now |
additional 2x For many years, I have had a MK-12 as my distance AR with the 1-6x on it, and then I bought: I preferred 1-8x as a distance optic so I decided to put the 1-6x on the .22LR and purchase the $250 1-8x w/ cantilever mount combo for the MK12. The tighter field of view is nice at distance (e.g. 19.2 ft vs 14.4 ft at 100 yds), and I feel like the 6x is about 300 yds and the 8x is about 400 yds. Surprisingly, the 8x is 1 oz lighter. The BDC goes out to 650, but IMO that's kind of like my truck's speedometer going up to 140 mph. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
OK, got it. This won't be used as a distance optic. 100 yards max. Still, for $30 more, you got a great deal. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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delicately calloused |
My ARs that don’t have ACOGs, have Aimpoints. Hard to beat an ACOG once you learn the Bindon Aiming Concept. I have scored ACOGs before for near Aimpoint money by buying an AR equipped with one which is selling at a fairly low price. Then I remove the ACOG and sell the rifle. Maybe that’s worth looking into. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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| Member |
Thank you for the information. | |||
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Age Quod Agis |
I have a Burris AR 332 on my M400. I love it. Only downside is that it is heavy, but since it sits right over the action, it balances well anyway. 3x magnification, black reticle which is visible in daylight even if the battery fails. Reticle is variably illuminated in both green and red for low light conditions. Built like a tank, and the drop compensation works very well. It's not the worlds best sight by any stretch, but I find that with the magnification, it is more useful to me than a straight 1x red dot, it is not affected by my astigmatism, and it allows either quick engagement on the move, or precision engagement from a bench. Look for sales. They are routinely available for about half price or so, and often come with a holographic 1x red dot as a kicker. https://www.burrisoptics.com/red-dots/ar-332 "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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