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Best optic for an AR?
December 03, 2022, 08:20 PM
BeancookerBest optic for an AR?
Rogue JSK, the optic arrived and is safe and sound. Thanks for the extra battery. Works like a champ. I have to wait until next week for the optic mount to arrive.
As far as astigmatism, yeah, I have one. If I focus on the dot it’s distorted. That said I have never focused on the dot. It’s the spot where the bullet goes.
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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
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December 04, 2022, 11:19 AM
sigfreundquote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Instead, try taking it out to the range and train with it, while focusing on the target as intended. Chances are really good that you won't notice distortion.
Your advice and experience are good to know, but unfortunately it does not work for all of us.
I have long taught and tried to practice focusing on the target rather than the optic’s reticle, but doing that with my Aimpoint sights doesn’t change the “bunch of grapes” image I get when using them. After reading your comments I checked to ensure I was doing it right, i.e., making an absolute concentrated effort to focus only on the target, and the reticle was still highly distorted for me.
I’d encourage everyone to try your advice because I believe target focus is the proper method of engaging close range targets quickly, but it may not correct the distorted reticle image problem for all of us.
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chellim1OLD THREAD ALERT
So, I went looking through various threads here about what to put on the new (to me) rifle...
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As others have said. For a budget Variable optic the Strike Eagle or Primary Arms 1-6 / 1-8 are hard to beat for the money.
I was considering the Sig Tango-MSR LPVO 1-6x24mm, but came upon this close-out deal at PSA:
Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x24 GEN2 Riflescope w/ AR-BDC3 Reticle - SE-1624-2
$499.99 $179.99
https://palmettostatearmory.co...ticle-se-1624-2.htmlIs the Vortex Strike Eagle still good to go?
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-rduckwor October 07, 2026, 12:54 PM
RogueJSKThe Vortex Strike Eagle is still a decent 1-6x LPVO, especially at that sale price.
But it's no longer the clear best bang for the buck in its price range like it had been for years.
You can do a little better (one or more of lighter/better glass/better illumination/etc.) in a similar (standard) price range nowadays with newer options like the Sig Tango MSR or Primary Arms SLx.
And keep in mind when comparing prices that the Strike Eagle doesn't come with a mount, while some other options do, like the Sig Tango MSR you were looking at.
October 07, 2026, 01:03 PM
83v45magnaI have a Trijicon TA44 1.5x mini ACOG for close in/HD work with .300BLK.
I got a 1-6x Primary Arms scout scope optimized for .556 in case I ever need or want it.
October 07, 2026, 01:03 PM
chellim1OK, thanks.
They do have the deal with the mount for $219.99:
https://palmettostatearmory.co...unt-2-offset-v2.html
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-rduckwor October 07, 2026, 01:21 PM
jhe888I've always liked an Aimpoint. I was mainly a 3-gun shooter with my AR, and for that, it is perfect. I can hit to 100 or 120 yards easily with it. At close range, it is silly fast.
They aren't $500, though.
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https://palmettostatearmory.co...-red-dot-drs-nv.htmlOctober 07, 2026, 02:09 PM
mrvmaxSounds like you should look at some of the Primary Arms optics. I have an AR that I shoot out to 1000 yards so I have a scope on it that costs as much as the rifle (the AR was close to 2k). Another AR stays in my SUV and has a $300 optic on it because that is all it needs.
October 07, 2026, 04:21 PM
chellim1quote:
They aren't $500, though.
Yeah, I'm in the $250 cheap range.
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-rduckwor October 07, 2026, 04:49 PM
tatortoddquote:
Originally posted by chellim1:
OK, thanks.
They do have the deal with the mount for $219.99:
https://palmettostatearmory.co...unt-2-offset-v2.html
As a reference, in 2024 I paid $250 for that mount with the 1-8x version.
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Mars_AttacksI use a Meprolight M21 on my 733 and it's been perfect.
However I PREFER the irons as they aren't made of GLASS.
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October 07, 2026, 05:22 PM
chellim1quote:
As a reference, in 2024 I paid $250 for that mount with the 1-8x version.
That sounds even better...
Is there much difference between the 1-6x version and the 1-8x version?
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-rduckwor October 07, 2026, 06:21 PM
tatortoddquote:
Originally posted by chellim1:
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As a reference, in 2024 I paid $250 for that mount with the 1-8x version.
That sounds even better...
Is there much difference between the 1-6x version and the 1-8x version?

additional 2x

For many years, I have had a MK-12 as my distance AR with the 1-6x on it, and then I bought:
another distance AR in 6.5 grendel and put the 1-8x on it
a M&P 22 for cheap plinking and it needed an optic
I preferred 1-8x as a distance optic so I decided to put the 1-6x on the .22LR and purchase the $250 1-8x w/ cantilever mount combo for the MK12. The tighter field of view is nice at distance (e.g. 19.2 ft vs 14.4 ft at 100 yds), and I feel like the 6x is about 300 yds and the 8x is about 400 yds. Surprisingly, the 8x is 1 oz lighter.
The BDC goes out to 650, but IMO that's kind of like my truck's speedometer going up to 140 mph.
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DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. October 07, 2026, 06:31 PM
chellim1quote:

additional 2x
I preferred 1-8x as a distance optic so I decided to put the 1-6x on the .22LR and purchase the $250 1-8x w/ cantilever mount combo for the MK12. The tighter field of view is nice at distance (e.g. 19.2 ft vs 14.4 ft at 100 yds), and I feel like the 6x is about 300 yds and the 8x is about 400 yds.
OK, got it.
This won't be used as a distance optic. 100 yards max.
Still, for $30 more, you got a great deal.
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-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor October 08, 2026, 09:00 AM
darthfusterMy ARs that don’t have ACOGs, have Aimpoints. Hard to beat an ACOG once you learn the Bindon Aiming Concept. I have scored ACOGs before for near Aimpoint money by buying an AR equipped with one which is selling at a fairly low price. Then I remove the ACOG and sell the rifle. Maybe that’s worth looking into.
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Marlin FanThank you for the information.
October 08, 2026, 12:11 PM
ArtieSI have a Burris AR 332 on my M400. I love it. Only downside is that it is heavy, but since it sits right over the action, it balances well anyway.
3x magnification, black reticle which is visible in daylight even if the battery fails. Reticle is variably illuminated in both green and red for low light conditions.
Built like a tank, and the drop compensation works very well.
It's not the worlds best sight by any stretch, but I find that with the magnification, it is more useful to me than a straight 1x red dot, it is not affected by my astigmatism, and it allows either quick engagement on the move, or precision engagement from a bench.
Look for sales. They are routinely available for about half price or so, and often come with a holographic 1x red dot as a kicker.
https://www.burrisoptics.com/red-dots/ar-332
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