That whole video is just shameful. I recognize several of the ANTIFA pricks from their publicized Portland shenanigans all last year. I disagree strongly with the actions of that state trooper. I'm with the others here who've posted correct assessments of the character of these officers who stand by while young criminals assault an elderly man...then sprawl an old man out on the ground while the young felons jeer and cheer. Just shameful.

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Originally posted by powermad:
If I'm behind the wheel of a running vehicle that's in gear I am not getting out.
There will be more than bricks and paint bouncing off the hood.

This^^

Even armed it's stupid to get out when you are outnumbered unless you absolutely have to. That's just me.

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Originally posted by AKSuperDually:
That whole video is just shameful. I recognize several of the ANTIFA pricks from their publicized Portland shenanigans all last year. I disagree strongly with the actions of that state trooper. I'm with the others here who've posted correct assessments of the character of these officers who stand by while young criminals assault an elderly man...then sprawl an old man out on the ground while the young felons jeer and cheer. Just shameful.

Thank you!

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Originally posted by Ackks:

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Originally posted by powermad:
If I'm behind the wheel of a running vehicle that's in gear I am not getting out.
There will be more than bricks and paint bouncing off the hood.

This^^

Even armed it's stupid to get out when you are outnumbered unless you absolutely have to. That's just me.

Not saying he shouldnt have stayed in his truck BUT he didnt and was treated horribly by the Cop after being assaulted by ANTIFA. Whose rights were violated??

Somehow I think the police went for him as
A. He was law abiding
B. He wasn’t a radical
C. When they said to put the gun down he’d obey.

The antifa punks? They’d spit run, whine and pea themselves. Then the video will be all over the 6 o’clock news as police brutality.

The guy didn't even know the rally was going on.
The location was a few blocks away and the cunts were leaving that area when they saw him at a light.
They fuck his truck up and he gets out not knowing what these fuck sticks have been up to a few blocks away.

Moral of the story..
https://youtu.be/_4dFDBYWuTc

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Oregon is a cesspool of filth, a fallen state. I see it like california, conservatives and Christians have had their opportunity to get out, by staying, they support the insanity happening there. I have friends and family who refuse to leave, I can't even hear it anymore. They have had plenty of warning. This kind of crap will continue and will get worse.

What you're proposing is just letting them (BLM/ANTIFA) win. You're suggesting good people abandon their homes and careers as they cower to BLM/ANTIFA.

I'm originally from Midwestern California AKA Colorado. I don't even refer to my home state as Colorado anymore. Colorado, as an independent state no longer exists. I left Colorado years ago due to my career. I now live in what most would consider a very conservative state of Oklahoma. As much of a red state as Oklahoma is (currently) I can assure you, there are pockets of liberals and supporters of the communist organizations BLM & ANTIFA. As a matter of fact, conservative states are huge targets for the left. Left unchecked, they WILL take over.

Many consider Texas to be a red state. The fact of the matter is Texas is at best purple. The day will likely come, when Texas flips to blue. If/when that happens, combined with DC and Puerto Rico potentially becoming states, it will literally be game over.

So, in conclusion instead of letting BLM/ANTIFA run you out of your home, it's actually better to push back against their influence. Because, eventually, there will be nowhere left to run. Also, why should a conservative state welcome weak people who willingly let these groups rule their lives?

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Originally posted by Belgian Blue:

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Oregon is a cesspool of filth, a fallen state. I see it like california, conservatives and Christians have had their opportunity to get out, by staying, they support the insanity happening there. I have friends and family who refuse to leave, I can't even hear it anymore. They have had plenty of warning. This kind of crap will continue and will get worse.

What you're proposing is just letting them (BLM/ANTIFA) win. You're suggesting good people abandon their homes and careers as they cower to BLM/ANTIFA.

I'm originally from Midwestern California AKA Colorado. I don't even refer to my home state as Colorado anymore. Colorado, as an independent state no longer exists. I left Colorado years ago due to my career. I now live in what most would consider a very conservative state of Oklahoma. As much of a red state as Oklahoma is (currently) I can assure you, there are pockets of liberals and supporters of the communist organizations BLM & ANTIFA. As a matter of fact, conservative states are huge targets for the left. Left unchecked, they WILL take over.

Many consider Texas to be a red state. The fact of the matter is Texas is at best purple. The day will likely come, when Texas flips to blue. If/when that happens, combined with DC and Puerto Rico potentially becoming states, it will literally be game over.

So, in conclusion instead of letting BLM/ANTIFA run you out of your home, it's actually better to push back against their influence. Because, eventually, there will be nowhere left to run. Also, why should a conservative state welcome weak people who willingly let these groups rule their lives?

Sometimes we cut damaged limbs, remove cancerous cells, and abandon sinking ships. It's sad, but sticking around to bail with a bucket can be hazardous to your existence. Remaining in a fallen state to be prosecuted, attacked, or worse...makes zero sense. The difficulty is determining that point. You can cower in your bunker keep up the fight, or move to freedom. Everyone has to make their own call. I can't stomach being around yellow - spineless people like those officers. I hate that I might know some. We used to respect our veterans. People around Salem Oregon have been terrible and hateful towards veterans for a long time. I've experienced it first hand. I chose to leave. I have zero regrets.

You make it sound like we're okay with being trampled and pushed out of our homes. Understand that they largely have the support of LE and government behind them. And largely all the media and content sources so that they can control the narrative, the information and the sheep. They can manifest in violence with impunity. We get prosecuted even when we're in the right defensively.

We will not win. The only way to stand ground is when we collectively decide to push them back with force. I do not see us regaining government and therefore LE.

I'm waiting only for the day when we've been triggered enough to forcibly take back. Until then, it's just pushing water.

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I'm waiting only for the day when we've been triggered enough to forcibly take back. Until then, it's just pushing water.

I have to agree.

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Sometimes we cut damaged limbs, remove cancerous cells, and abandon sinking ships. It's sad, but sticking around to bail with a bucket can be hazardous to your existence. Remaining in a fallen state to be prosecuted, attacked, or worse...makes zero sense. The difficulty is determining that point. You can cower in your bunker keep up the fight, or move to freedom. Everyone has to make their own call. I can't stomach being around yellow - spineless people like those officers. I hate that I might know some. We used to respect our veterans. People around Salem Oregon have been terrible and hateful towards veterans for a long time. I've experienced it first hand. I chose to leave. I have zero regrets.

You miss the point entirely... Wherever you go, when you bail on your home state, will also have BLM/ANTIFA supporters. They are everywhere. If you walked away from your home state, what's to keep you from doing the same when BLM/ANTIFA starts growing in your new home? Red states don't need weak kneed drifters with questionable fortitude.

Why should conservative states welcome people who didn't stand up to BLM/ANTIFA in their home state? I saw what happened to Colorado. It will eventually happen everywhere. Where will you go next? Canada? Guess what? Canada also has BLM/ANTIFA already, so...

Maybe conservative states should focus on NOT WELCOMING commie, lefty scum first and foremost instead of casting aspersions on harried normies fleeing the cesspool. See how that goes.

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Originally posted by divil:
Maybe conservative states should focus on NOT WELCOMING commie, lefty scum first and foremost instead of casting aspersions on harried normies fleeing the cesspool. See how that goes.

OR... Maybe “normies” in Blue States could just grow some balls and get involved in their state’s political systems to vote out corrupt politicians and push back against BLM/ANTIFA shitbags. If they have proven themselves willing to be bullied out of their home states, WE don’t need ‘em in ours.

Looking down your nose at someone who is not your enemy will result in diminished attention paid to the commie who truly is.

Contempt for your fellow non commie is hardly a rallying cry.

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Originally posted by divil:
Looking down your nose at someone who is not your enemy will result in diminished attention paid to the commie who truly is.

Contempt for your fellow non commie is hardly a rallying cry.

What you people are advocating is running from your problems. Letting the enemy gain ground. You’re playing right into their hands. You fail to see the big picture. California used to have a number of conservative areas. Ronald Reagan was governor of California. Then, commies made inroads. Instead of getting involved in their communities, moderates just walked away. Like locust, they descended on neighboring states like Oregon, Washington and Colorado.

Meanwhile, California became a bastion of Communist ideology. After decades of in-bread leftist policies and Hollywood decadence, the cesspool was finally ready... Politicians taxed people beyond all reasonable measure for the sole purpose of driving these hyper leftist commies into red states they once ridiculed as being backward hicks. All, for the sole purpose of spreading their leftist, communist ideology to the red states.

It’s all part of a master plan. To spread liberalism to the red states and thus conquer them politically and literally. Rush Limbaugh even joked about it on his talk show. He’d say something like, we should export liberalism to enemy nations as a weapon. Well, that’s what these states are doing. Care to guess what state is seeing the biggest influx of blue staters? That’s right boys & girls... The great state of Texas!

Think I’m wrong? Look at Georgia... It used to be a slam dunk perennial Red State. Not any more!!! Should Para lead an Exodus out of Georgia? Say... “Oh fuck it! I saw some liberals the other day... Better pack up and move!” I don’t think so... Do you?

In case you missed the (pretty obvious) signs, we are in a culture war here. Just like any war, victory is measured by who gains and who loses territory. You never win a battle, let alone a war by conceding ground. You win by holding ground and advancing!

I dunno. I think it’s more like the tactical retreat of a platoon behind enemy lines to merge with a division in preparation for a final battle.

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Originally posted by konata88:
I dunno. I think it’s more like the tactical retreat of a platoon behind enemy lines to merge with a division in preparation for a final battle.

Except there’s literally nothing “tactical” about it and the majority of people vacating their home states are bringing with them the same failed political values and cultural deprivation that created the original problem.

It’s exactly like our southern border. Wetbacks overrun our border clamoring for the American dream. Never mind the fact that they’re coming from a 3rd world shithole. Eventually, when enough wetbacks get here, they’ll turn the US into exactly what they left behind. A corrupt, crime infused 3rd world shithole.

There are only so many lifeboats left. At some point red states need to man the ores and put hard wood to skulls lest the lifeboats all sink overwhelmed with fleeing masses too weak to stem the tide in their own states.

To be clear, I’m talking about conservatives leaving liberal bastions for conservative regions. Blue leaving blue for red areas - fuck them.

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Originally posted by konata88:
To be clear, I’m talking about conservatives leaving liberal bastions for conservative regions. Blue leaving blue for red areas - fuck them.

To be clear, I don’t care...

Nice attitude. So if your way works so well, why do you care if blue moves to your area? Red controls the government and ya’ll are involved in community so blue won’t take over. It’s much easier to hold them down than to push them out. So you shouldn’t be concerned when blue moves to you. In fact, that should make it easier for us in blue states to convert back to red.

If what you suggest is so easy, red states should have no concerns with blue migration.