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It's like the old saying about starting a career- how do you build a reputation and gain experience if you have to have a reputation to get experience?

You have to start somewhere. There has to be a first transaction, so someone has to be trusting, but I would approach even low dollar exchanges with skepticism.

One has to wonder about the motivations of people who have scarce or desirable items for sale at prices too attractive to pass by. This is especially so when any such member has a low post count and/or is a recent registrant.

We've had a scammer with us for a short while and I guess he's done some damage.

This is a reminder to all here that thieves love forums such as this and they know how to push your buttons. Be very careful. Be skeptical. Ask questions and if anything looks fishy, don't go through with the deal.


The internet is heaven for thieves. Caveat emptor


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Thank you, sir, for weeding out the mofos.


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I notified Para as soon as I researched and realized he was a scammer but it was too late for me. I had already sent the money order. Hopefully it helps other members who have yet to send him anything.

New question. I sent a Postal Money Order signature required to the address and name he gave. What recourse do I have? Any chance I'll see my $915 again?

I think I'll go have an angry beer.



"Pickin' stones and pullin' teats is a hard way to make a living. But, sure as God's got sandals, it beats fightin' dudes with treasure trails."

"We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed, and we've been quite possibly, bamboozled."
 
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Originally posted by Andyb:
I notified Para as soon as I researched and realized he was a scammer but it was too late for me. I had already sent the money order. Hopefully it helps other members who have yet to send him anything.

New question. I sent a Postal Money Order signature required to the address and name he gave. What recourse do I have? Any chance I'll see my $915 again?

I think I'll go have an angry beer.


Get to the post office NOW and have it cancelled. Explain to the postal clerk why.







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Posts: 14010 | Location: It was Lat: 33.xxxx Lon: 44.xxxx now it's CA :( | Registered: March 22, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
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Originally posted by Andyb:
I notified Para as soon as I researched and realized he was a scammer but it was too late for me. I had already sent the money order. Hopefully it helps other members who have yet to send him anything.

New question. I sent a Postal Money Order signature required to the address and name he gave. What recourse do I have? Any chance I'll see my $915 again?

I think I'll go have an angry beer.


Get to the post office NOW and have it cancelled. Explain to the postal clerk why.


Closed until 830 Monday :/ I plan to be there though



"Pickin' stones and pullin' teats is a hard way to make a living. But, sure as God's got sandals, it beats fightin' dudes with treasure trails."

"We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed, and we've been quite possibly, bamboozled."
 
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Originally posted by Andyb:
I notified Para as soon as I researched and realized he was a scammer


How did you figure out it was a scam?
 
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Originally posted by Andyb:
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Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
quote:
Originally posted by Andyb:
I notified Para as soon as I researched and realized he was a scammer but it was too late for me. I had already sent the money order. Hopefully it helps other members who have yet to send him anything.

New question. I sent a Postal Money Order signature required to the address and name he gave. What recourse do I have? Any chance I'll see my $915 again?

I think I'll go have an angry beer.


Get to the post office NOW and have it cancelled. Explain to the postal clerk why.


Closed until 830 Monday :/ I plan to be there though

They're open on Memorial Day? Eek


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Can you intercept / redirect the package? The signature confirmation might get it?

https://retail-pi.usps.com/ret...actions/index.action


What Is It?
Redirect a domestic shipment that hasn't been delivered or released for delivery. Available for packages, letters, and flats with a tracking or extra services barcode and all mail classes, except Standard Mail® and Periodicals (other restrictions may apply).

How It Works
Verify your shipment is eligible for Package Intercept.

If eligible, log in to your account and submit your request.

You'll receive an estimated total (estimated Priority Mail® postage plus intercept fees). We will then attempt to intercept and redirect the shipment.

The Postal Service® will make every effort to locate your item; however, there is no guarantee for this service.

If the package is intercepted, your credit card will be charged the Package Intercept fee plus the estimated postage. If the actual postage due is greater than the estimated postage, any additional postage due will be collected at delivery (or pickup).

Additional Information & Restrictions
Learn More


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Originally posted by RogueJSK:
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Originally posted by Andyb:
I notified Para as soon as I researched and realized he was a scammer


How did you figure out it was a scam?


He offered another rifle at a good price and I looked up the pics and found them in an auction from 2011. I googled the name he gave me plus gun and there were multiple threads on other forums with the same address of people who have been scammed.



"Pickin' stones and pullin' teats is a hard way to make a living. But, sure as God's got sandals, it beats fightin' dudes with treasure trails."

"We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed, and we've been quite possibly, bamboozled."
 
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Originally posted by 12131:
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Originally posted by Andyb:
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Originally posted by LS1 GTO:
quote:
Originally posted by Andyb:
I notified Para as soon as I researched and realized he was a scammer but it was too late for me. I had already sent the money order. Hopefully it helps other members who have yet to send him anything.

New question. I sent a Postal Money Order signature required to the address and name he gave. What recourse do I have? Any chance I'll see my $915 again?

I think I'll go have an angry beer.


Get to the post office NOW and have it cancelled. Explain to the postal clerk why.


Closed until 830 Monday :/ I plan to be there though

They're open on Memorial Day? Eek


Guess I'm boned till Tuesday



"Pickin' stones and pullin' teats is a hard way to make a living. But, sure as God's got sandals, it beats fightin' dudes with treasure trails."

"We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed, and we've been quite possibly, bamboozled."
 
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He sent me emails from one address but two different names- I was suspicious and found the Nightforce pictures on another forum from two years ago so I asked him for recent pictures. He said they were recent so I sent him the link to the original sale and his reply was that it looks the same and that he was the original seller. I was out then but next day he marked as sold so I notified Para.
 
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andyb try that link immediately. You might be able to stop it now.


quote:
Originally posted by braillediver:
Can you intercept / redirect the package? The signature confirmation might get it?

https://retail-pi.usps.com/ret...actions/index.action


What Is It?
Redirect a domestic shipment that hasn't been delivered or released for delivery. Available for packages, letters, and flats with a tracking or extra services barcode and all mail classes, except Standard Mail® and Periodicals (other restrictions may apply).

How It Works
Verify your shipment is eligible for Package Intercept.

If eligible, log in to your account and submit your request.

You'll receive an estimated total (estimated Priority Mail® postage plus intercept fees). We will then attempt to intercept and redirect the shipment.

The Postal Service® will make every effort to locate your item; however, there is no guarantee for this service.

If the package is intercepted, your credit card will be charged the Package Intercept fee plus the estimated postage. If the actual postage due is greater than the estimated postage, any additional postage due will be collected at delivery (or pickup).

Additional Information & Restrictions
Learn More
 
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Originally posted by Andyb:


Closed until 830 Monday :/ I plan to be there though


Monday is Memorial Day, they'll be closed.
 
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Originally posted by nshumway:
andyb try that link immediately. You might be able to stop it now.


Unfortunately it was delivered/signed for yesterday.



"Pickin' stones and pullin' teats is a hard way to make a living. But, sure as God's got sandals, it beats fightin' dudes with treasure trails."

"We've been tricked, we've been backstabbed, and we've been quite possibly, bamboozled."
 
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Way to stay Heads Up and nail this SOB gang! I HATE thieves!

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Originally posted by braillediver:
Can you intercept / redirect the package? The signature confirmation might get it?

[url=https://retail-pi.usps.com/retailpi/actions/index.action]https://retail-pi.usps.com/ret...actions/index.actio
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Great suggestion! Until recently I didn't even know this service existed, but immediately after mailing a payment for a gun I realized the FFL had included both his defunct business address and his home address in his payment instructions and as poorly formatted as they were I used the wrong address. I caught the mistake in time, redirected the payment to the correct address, and it arrived as redirected. The cost of the redirect was more than the original USPS money order fee and Priority Mail which ticked me off...but in the end it was worth it. DON'T WAIT UNTIL THE POST OFFICE OPENS ON TUESDAY...REDIRECT PAYMENT THROUGH THE USPS WEBSITE RTFN! Good luck!

Ooops, wrting this while the fact payment had been delivered was posted.

Andyb, sorry to learn you got ripped off. Let us know the outcome.
 
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Originally posted by nshumway:
andyb try that link immediately. You might be able to stop it now.


Unfortunately it was delivered/signed for yesterday.


Damn sorry to hear this andyyb
 
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If you can confirm the identity and physical address of the individual, you should contact the local law enforcement office in his/her area. If the office is not swamped, they will put a Detective on it. This happened to me ten years or so ago, and the Detective tracked the guy down. He collected the funds from him, and sent me a Postal Money Order refund. This took a month or so, but I could not have been more pleased with the way my situation was handled.


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I’d call your local PD and the LE with jurisdiction at the address where it was delivered.
 
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Contact USPS Inspectors. They're relentless. They may ask if you want to prosecute or get your funds back. My choice would be to prosecute. Restitution can come after adjudication in criminal trial. Get a felony arrest on his record.


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Originally posted by az4783054:
Contact USPS Inspectors. They're relentless. They may ask if you want to prosecute or get your funds back. My choice would be to prosecute. Restitution can come after adjudication in criminal trial. Get a felony arrest on his record.


^^ This. I had a similar situation about 6-7 years ago where I sent a USPS MO and was scammed. It look a few months but I did get my money back. I wish I had prosecuted but at that time I was to the point where I wanted my $2k back. You can contact the USPS inspectors a few different ways at the link below. Good luck sir.

http://about.usps.com/publicat...pub300a_tech_024.htm


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