This guy knows what he is talking about.
Thanks for posting the info.
Another forum that I was part of published a scumbag list. Just a thought. I certainly defer to Para on whether he’d entertain such a topic here.
Another forum I belong to restricts access to post on the classifieds until you reach a specified number of quality posts on the forum. The quality of your posts is left up to the moderators, but it is mainly to weed out folks who respond with inane comments to everything just to get to the number required. I have no idea how hard that would be to administer here.
I'm all jacked up on Mountain Dew...
|Slayer of Agapanthus|
Is doing a 'ping' on the IP address useful for detecting a scammer?
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye". The Little Prince, Antoine de Saint-Exupery, pilot and author, lost on mission, July 1944, Med Theatre.
|Not really from Vienna|
"Is doing a 'ping' on the IP address useful for detecting a scammer?"
Not an expert, but I am going to guess that if the ip address shows anywhere in Nigeria, that could be a clue. So, yeah, it might be.
The guy has a Texas address and an Ohio phone number. Edit: The guy has been at it on other boards: http://forum.accurateshooter.c...r-conroe-tx.3951047/
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1
Just for information, having differing postal address from an area code is not really highly indicative, as I live in NJ and have a PA phone number. Not saying absolutely, but I wouldn't hang my hat on that discrepancy. People DO move.
I should be tall and rich too; That ain't gonna happen either
I would be happy to contribute $ to prosecute if you go dowwn that path.
Risk the consequences of honesty...
This is really interesting. If we all started doing this with our Classifieds (kinda' an unwritten rule), it would pretty easily expose those unwilling/uninterested...not a definitive scam, but a red flag nonetheless.
Risk the consequences of honesty...
|Drill Here, Drill Now|
Agreed. Since the end of long distance charges on cell phones, nobody switches cell #’s when they move. I used my Houston cell # all 5 years in Alaska. When I lived in Canada, I ported my Houston # to Google voice so I had a US # people in US could call and when I moved back to US had it ported to cell carrier. Same # for 13 years and I’ve lived in 4 cities in 2 different countries.
Here in Texas, I have friends with area codes from as far away as Boston.
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No. Doing a "whois" lookup on the IP address might be. E.g.:
$ whois 126.96.36.199 % This is the AfriNIC Whois server. % Note: this output has been filtered. % To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag. % Information related to '188.8.131.52 - 184.108.40.206' % No abuse contact registered for 220.127.116.11 - 18.104.22.168 inetnum: 22.214.171.124 - 126.96.36.199 netname: GLOMOBILE-GPRS descr: GLO-1 country: NG admin-c: PA2-AFRINIC tech-c: PA2-AFRINIC status: ASSIGNED PA mnt-by: GLO-ONLINE-ADMIN source: AFRINIC # Filtered parent: 188.8.131.52 - 184.108.40.206 person: Prasoon Agarwal address: 1- Mike Adenuga Close, Victoria Island address: Lagos address: Lagos address: Nigeria ... $ whois 220.127.116.11 % This is the AfriNIC Whois server. % Note: this output has been filtered. % To receive output for a database update, use the "-B" flag. % Information related to '18.104.22.168 - 22.214.171.124' % No abuse contact registered for 126.96.36.199 - 188.8.131.52 inetnum: 184.108.40.206 - 220.127.116.11 netname: Spectranet-INET-LTE_DYN_ALLOC descr: Dynamic allocation for LTE customers country: NG admin-c: TCS1-AFRINIC tech-c: TCS1-AFRINIC status: ASSIGNED PA mnt-by: SNL-MNT source: AFRINIC # Filtered parent: 18.104.22.168 - 22.214.171.124 person: Technical Contact SN address: PLOT NO-36B MOBOLAJI JOHNSON AVENUE OREGUN INDUSTRIAL ESTATE ALAUSA-IKEJA, address: IKEJA address: Nigeria ,,,
But maybe not. See next.
Well, kinda sorta.
In this day-and-age of people using VPNs to mask their location, etc.: Anybody from anywhere could appear to show up as connecting from anywhere else. Though common sense would dictate nobody who wished to be trusted would pick a VPN terminating in Nigeria , likewise a scammer could easily VPN through a terminus in a more trustworthy-looking country--such as here in the U.S.
Besides: How are you, as a forum user, going to know from which IP address they're posting to SF?
A data point, but, in this age of number portability in the US: Not indicative of anything.
Heck: I bought something on-line from a Dutch on-line merchant while I was in the Netherlands and gave them my US-based mobile number for a contact number.
Personally, I'd neither buy from nor sell to anybody here I didn't recognize--or at least had a long-time posting history. The boss runs a tight ship, but he's not quite omniscient
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I was scammed by this scum sent payment to
108 Elmhurst Dr
$800 for PSL
|Ice age heat wave, |
Hello, welcome. Did said scam take place on this forum?
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Time for a reminder:
"Text me at (number) for pictures"
Fluff posts and nothing but.
And, for me, seeing that they're coming of the freaking Chicago area.
"Text me..." Never, gentlemen, never make a purchase in this way, via this forum.
|Now Serving 7.62|
One thing I did recently on a purchase I’m in the middle of is ask for a copy of the drivers license and if they have one, a carry permit so I can be assured they would pass a background check. I’ll be doing this from now on. Once I get their name and address phone number etc. I do a search online, then I ask for copies of the ID to see if it matches what they are telling me. Not fool proof but sure helps create some feelings that they’re on the up and up. I too got bitten by someone last year, Para was aware and I think I posted about it. It was out of NY. I should have known. They contacted me outside the forum and there was no answer within the forum. Lesson the hard way.
Would you post a photo of your driver's license &/or carry permit on the internet for all to see? If not, then why would you send it to a stranger?
Sending photos of your DL is a great way to become a victim of ID theft and doxxing.
I have seen and personally dealt with many scammers who acquired a photo of someone's DL &/or carry permit. They use them to build rapport w/ their victims. It's, "You can trust me. We're in the same state. You know I have a clean record, because I have a carry permit."
I always feel sorry for the people they're posing as and wonder how their IDs got circulated in the first place.
I've also seen legitimate private party transactions where one or both parties take photos of IDs to record the transaction. Later, one party feels jilted or cheated after closing the deal and expresses his scorn by posting the photos of the other party's DL on a public website warning, "Don't deal w/ ___. He ripped me off."
I've come across scammers who somehow acquired a photo of a legit gun store's FFL certificate and sent it to victims w/ the assurance that, "You can trust me. Here's a copy of my FFL."
|Just because you can, |
doesn't mean you should
The few purchases I've made online here have been with long time folks with lots of posts. Even then, I've checked out their email or other contact info to be as sure as I can.
I'm always amazed to see how many in even SF classifieds are low count members and even then most seem to be OK for the transaction.
Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible.
|quarter MOA visionary|
ALWAYS a bad idea to send a copy of your DL.
About 6-8 years ago another forum unnamed but specializes in distance shooting was selling some decent 308 ammo (before I got into reloading).
It was the forum actually selling the ammo not any company or individual.
They insisted on a copy of my DL to sell me the ammo.
Nobody else asked for that.
I flatly refused and they wouldn't ship.
OK with me but not going to expose that especially for something like this.
Just like I will not wear a mask, get the COVID vaccination, kiss the ring of black lives matter or bow down to any democrat, I will not send a copy of my DL to anyone.....
Viine, Vinnie, Vinnie
Veni, vidi, vici
Who can tell us what's wrong with his post?
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