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I just received this notice in my email, and decided to read through the blog. My company does work with FSA/USDA, USACE, DOI, and occasionally the USFS. So losing the opportunity to accept those lucrative contracts is about a 15-20% gross potential revenue blow to my company. Regardless of my status of jabbed or unjabbed (my own personal health decision along with my partners), the implication that SAM renewal will require certification, and current acceptance of new contracts will require certification proof of the jab...its a big deal. As I've echo'd in other threads. Freedom isn't free. Here's one of the areas it is going to cost me. We WILL NOT COMPLY. At least I get to be in a unique position the government isn't used to...that if I won't or can't do the contract, there isn't anyone else who can either. Shut down. Here's the link: https://www.whitcomblawpc.com/...source=hs_automation Here's a snipped and paste of the blog: This message has been edited. Last edited by: AKSuperDually, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.rikrlandvs.com | ||
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Ha ha ha Freakin’ dig it! So glad I’m out/done w .gov/.mil AMF! "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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I wish one of these wonderful think tanks would put together a dollar calculation of the amount of economic impact these stupid mandates will have on the domestic & international economy. My bet is the number would be huge. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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When $100 million is an agency budget rounding error, I don’t think they would ever really care… In fact, I know they don’t. "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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I think you're undercutting the real number big time. My bet, the actual, ongoing, impacts are in the tens of 'billions' if not more. And how about the the human costs. How many people will die due to healthcare workers being fired? How many people will die or be injured due to police, FD, and EMT's being unable to respond to calls due to a lack of staffing? What about the opportunity and other costs associated with all those container ships sitting at anchor in perpetuity? And none of that can be fixed quickly at this point regardless what course or decisions the Retard Administration takes. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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You are allowed a medical or religious exemption. Must be jabbed or have an approved accommodation by 8 December 2021. You doctor may be willing to give you a note. Some will some will not. Any clergy can do one. Good luck. | |||
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Nobody where I work is required to be vaccinated. Vaccine and masks are totally optional, each person is free to make his / her own choice. Of course, I'm The Boss. That might have something to do with it. הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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We have the same rules here. "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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Not just any clergy can. Many will, but also, many have been told they will lose their credentials and be removed from the organization if they do. I will write them, I've had mixed messages from my organization. The head legal counsel gave an example letter and a policy on exemption letters, then my regional leadership instructed us under no circumstances will anyone in their region be allowed to write these letters. Of course...they're based in Portland and Seattle, so I'm ignoring them. I'll let you all know when I get my minister's license credentials yanked... As for my other company, the one directly affected by this, I can't wait for USDA to call requesting another USDA or FSA appraisal. Last time we were the only company qualified and willing to bid. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.rikrlandvs.com | |||
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Just a suggestion: It's worth considering editing your thread title to remove the "cutesy" nicknames (Fauci Ouchi/Bumbledin/etc.). Something more like "Biden EO Vaccine Mandate Applies to SAM/GOV Contractors Also" would help make it more clear to folks browsing the forum what the thread is about. (It's not quite the "clickbait/vague thread titles" that Para has repeatedly warned about, but such a change would certainly be in a similar spirit about wanting there to always be clear thread titles.) | |||
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Due to this stupid EO, I just pulled out of a great job as a Toxic Material Handler at the Pueblo Chemical Depot. It is one of two remaining Army installations in the United States that stores chemical weapons. Encompassing approximately 23,000 acres, the depot’s mission has shifted and expanded since PCD was created in 1942. Today, the depot ensures the safe, secure storage of the chemical weapons stockpile until it is destroyed, and is preparing for depot closure. The chemical stockpile is comprised of 2,600 tons of mustard agent in approximately 780,000 munitions. They have already destroyed at the 155 and 105mm shells and working on 4.2mm Mortars. They were not really happy with me when I told them I could care less about COVID and that I am more concerned that the MOPP suits are regularly serviced, repaired and replaced. I said piss on it all and just withdrew from the process. I am just fed up with all of it including the Army. | |||
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My company provides some services to the feds, but not near enough to make me tell all my employees they have to get the shot against their will. Because I am not vaccinated and unlike a Democrat not a hypocrite! ------------------------------------- Always the pall bearer, never the corpse. | |||
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Of course you are vaccinated! Measles, mumps polio and TB. The Moderna, Pfizer & J&J's are NOT Vaccines! _________________________ | |||
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Your opinion was seen. Thanks for sharing it. Should the ask be sent, I'm happy to comply with wishes of such. Absent of such communication, given the experience I've had receiving it, I have to question if your words of implication in speaking for him hold water or not. I guess we'll both see. I'm not in any way opposed to site owner's wishes, nor am I in any way flaunting or attempting to parade around them. I am, of late, more sick and tired of being nice to those who are destroying my country, and like the average person in my circles, sick and tired of those who in an effort to clean up the internet for sensibility sake, unable to call a spade for what it is. Hell, I'm not even jumping on the "Lets go Brandon" bandwagon. I'll just say, "Fuck Joe Biden". ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.rikrlandvs.com | |||
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Just turned down a $10,000 job from USDA over this executive order. Here's the latest info from SAM.gov:
Good luck getting a USDA loan right now. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.rikrlandvs.com | |||
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Here is a portion of the email I sent in response to the contract notice: Our firm will not be bidding on this contract without a letter of exemption from your contracting department addressing Executive Order 14042. We cannot in good faith sign contracts that include the language distributed by SAM.gov on September 24th with the language included in the notice that while the work may be accepted we won't be paid unless we prove compliance with executive order 14042. Happy to discuss this further if needed, or if you can help illustrate and provide proof of exemption, then we could provide a bid on this for you. snipped snipped Principal Senior Administrative Partner ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.rikrlandvs.com | |||
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Response this morning affirmed we were the only qualified contractor for this bid, and they are unsure what they are going to do now that our firm will not bid on any contracts until the executive order is rescinded. I wish I could post the actual responses, that's one pissed-off federal worker. It sounds like they lost some employees from their office over this also. Here's one quote I can snip: "Our resources here in XXXX are so limited anyway and this just makes a bad situation impossible. Unfortunately, the Executive Branch won’t feel the pain nor take the heat for their decision." I encouraged them to pass their frustration up the chain and to be sure to let the applicant for the program know who ultimately is preventing this program from happening now. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.rikrlandvs.com | |||
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Well interesting turn of events. Also, perhaps useful news for anyone else considering federal contract work right now. This response was sent from DC:
This is the citation sent for the message above (whitehouse.gov link): LINK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.rikrlandvs.com | |||
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Just like the government to change the rules to benefit them, I see this EVERY time the Coast Guard pushs out a new policy... | |||
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At the same time, they're pushing the fee down for this service. Now it can't exceed $10,000. In this particular case, it wouldn't normally, but I've had 2 similar contracts for the same product in a slightly more remote location that were nearly twice that fee. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.rikrlandvs.com | |||
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