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At this point rope may be too good for these meddling turds. Piano wire or rusty barbed wire followed by a slow drop should make more of a statement. Followed up by heads on pikes of course. Lots and lots of heads on pikes. ___________________________________Sigforum - port in the fake news storm.____________Be kind to the Homeless. A lot of us are one bad decision away from there. | |||
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Twenty or so years ago, I was giving serious thought to moving to Oregon. I had friends who lived there and described the political climate (at that time) as being what we now call "libertarian". Pretty much, everybody minds their own business, including the state. It looked and sounded very appealing. My how times change. _________________________ Sometimes good people have to do bad things to bad people to prevent bad people from doing bad things to good people. A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.-Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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SB501 looks like it's starting to lose steam, so, they introduced HB3223, which is a registration scheme. If you put an aftermarket stock with a pistol grip or a "thumbhole" on that Mini-14 without the correct paperwork, you would go to jail for a year, and become a felon, if it passes. https://olis.leg.state.or.us/l...nt/HB3223/Introduced We're not even half done with this legislative session.  Roughest year ever for Oregon Gun owners. Pretty much the new bill mimics the NY SAFE Law, for example...  . | |||
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As others have said: A Liberal, Progressive, Socialist, Democrat WET DREAM. I can tell that they are getting hard just reading the article! And YES, this is a result from all the idiots that got fed up with Commifornia, moved to Oregon and other nice, decent, firearms friendly locations, and destroyed it like the sh*t hole they fled from. Here in Virginia, we have been over run with these same people that left Maryland, DC, NY, and NJ because they don't like the bad politics and bring that same crap here. Little by little, these locust are destroying this country! | |||
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Dayum! You lost me at permit to purchase/receive a firearm. CA seems to be bound and determined to be a model of just how screwed up a state can make their firearm laws and there is no nonsense about a permit to purchase here. Plenty of other thoroughly screwed up stuff, but not that. Oregon is absolutely off the list of potential places to escape to... | |||
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I grew up here in Oregon. From about 1859 until about 3 years ago, it was a place where everyone pretty much minded their own business. Kind of a live and let live. We even had some republican governors and senators when I was growing up. But in the last few years, there seems like "live and let live" has changed and there are any number of people who want to tell you how to live your life. The tone of the Oregon legislature has changed, and it seems to be a combination of ignorance and arrogance with a little greed mixed in. Not what it was. . | |||
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I'll assert that the recent evolution we've seen from the left is born of having a taste of power vicariously through Stampy Feet. Since that taste, the Left has become ravenous for the extreme policies for which they've yearned for decades. Now it's like taking a slab of meat from a starving dog. It will kill or die before giving up. My theory is that Obasm started the dash leftward and Super Harpy was to further and embed it into the culture so resistance would be futile. The Left had so much riding on Felonia that they came away punch drunk in '16 and, having sniffed the salts and received some coaching, are straining to lurch out of the corner and swing away. The Left is rabid now. It foams at the mouth and mauls anyone who comes too close. I think this is a good thing. If the public has not completely lost it's soul, it can see how destructive moving to the extreme Left is. Again I say, the more people the Left pushes to the margin, the more in the margin it finds itself. That goes for any extremist movement. Today is not that much different than the Reagan era. It's just that the destructive, vulgar, hypocritical, violent, oppressive Left has amplifiers now which work to also suppress the Right. So it appears the numbers are reversed. Remember when the 'polls' showed Von Pantsuit to be the clear winner on election day? But on election night.........RUSSIANS! I still watch The Young Turks meltdown on youtube every once in a while just for chuckles.  NSFW language. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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...."pathetic losers"....LOL....yeah, right.... a collection of clueless profane DNCers who threaten violence upon the Trump voters? are these guys even employed now? **************~~~~~~~~~~ "I've been on this rock too long to bother with these liars any more." ~SIGforum advisor~ "When the pain of staying the same outweighs the pain of change, then change will come."~~sigmonkey | |||
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New bills introduced today. CHL restrictions in public buildings and 10 round mag limit on the table. Damn. This was once a good state. . | |||
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It was probably ghost-written by Bloomberg’s or Soros’ goons.
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There are at this time 27 gun related bills up for consideration in Oregon. Only 3 of them are pro-gun. . | |||
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Well, SB978 has advanced out of committee. This is bad news. Felony to have a gun with no S/N regardless of where it came from or how old it is. CHL permitted areas are restricted CHL fees increased Gotta lock up your guns. More stuff in there too. It's a very large bill that covers a lot of gun related stuff. Oh, the bill to give Oregon's electoral college votes to the national popular vote winner advanced too. . | |||
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You're describing Medford, Ashland and Bend as bastions of CA escapees, otherwise the rest of the I-5 corridor is home-grown lefties. OR is a no-shit battleground, all the protest-brawl videos with the Antifa-tards and everyone else...Oregon. The I-5 corridor controls the entire state, vast swaths of Oregon are red yet, a narrow strip controls its politics. Seattle and Washington state are the same. | |||
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that narrow strip contains maybe 10% of the land mass but sizable majority of population of the state. PDX-metro alone is larger than the entire rest of the state population. **************~~~~~~~~~~ "I've been on this rock too long to bother with these liars any more." ~SIGforum advisor~ "When the pain of staying the same outweighs the pain of change, then change will come."~~sigmonkey | |||
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HELP!!! My state senator actually left me a message and wants to chat about my concerns. He's on the fence (I think) what do I say...??? (I'm not good at these type of things) . | |||
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Ok, I'll be talking to my state senator at 4 PM Pacific time. We'll see how this goes. I'm trying to prep as best I can, and sadly, I get the feeling he's not on our side right now, since his assistant told me that he's for "common sense gun laws". ANY HELP ON WHAT TO SAY WOULD BE MUCH APPRECIATED. . | |||
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Think Massachusetts, west..
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Come on guys! Let's give radioman ammo to use with his state senator!
radioman, I'm not from the area and haven't read the bill but from the synopsis given above, it looks like they are trying to create new laws that will make it more difficult for law-abiding citizens to comply with but which will be ignored by the criminals at whom they really should be directed. At minimum, antique firearms and newer firearms manufactured in Oregon for personal use should not be subject to the serial number requirements. Sounds like they are going after the 80% receivers that don't need an FFL? Not sure about the CHL permitted areas being restricted, but anything that makes it more difficult for a legal possessor of a firearm to be in legal possession of the weapon isn't a good thing since those who will be willing to use a weapon for ill will would ignore that law anyway. The law itself would then make it more difficult for the law-abiding citizens to protect themselves against such miscreants. The increased cost may just be what it takes for the permitting process, but if it's being raised to ridiculous levels to restrict access, then it should be fought. Electoral College vote? A vote for that gives away the state's voice in the election. *** "Aut viam inveniam aut faciam (I will either find a way or make one)." -- Hannibal Barca | |||
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At 21:22 radioman... Arguments against gun control: 1. Criminals do not respect gun laws any more than they laws against armed robbery, murder, or rape. If they did there would be no cases brought involving "felon in possession of a firearm," "use of firearm in commission of a robbery," or "possession of a firearm while in possession of a controlled substance." When those charges are brought, they are routinely plead down a concurrent sentence or dropped altogether, which is why criminals have no respect for those laws. If you want criminals to realize guns and crime are a bad mix, follow Virginia's Project Exile, wherein any conviction of any felony that involved a firearm added five years incarceration to the other penalty, sentences served consecutively. When Virginia began doing this, felony firearms charges began to plummet. 2. These laws will not prevent a mentally ill person from obtaining a firearm. The mass murderers in the last 25 years share a common trait: people, often more than one, often government officials or trained mental health professionals, ALL realized these individuals were seriously mentally ill, yet either did nothing or were stymied in their efforts to get the person involuntarily committed. If you want to stop mentally ill people from obtaining a firearm act instead on the person, getting them the help and treatment they need. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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The best arguments in favor of a citizen's right to self-defense with effective weapons has been made by Judge Benitez in California. If I were speaking to a state representative I would probably allude to that decision, and note that it is going to be a battle fought all the way to the Supreme Court. Is the legislator familiar with that decision (overturning a ban on full capacity magazines? Would he or she like a copy? I (the hypothetical I in the discussion) would be happy to e-mail it. Bottom line: Heller and Macdonald have so far clearly established the individual right to bear arms, and applied this to the states. If Benitez' ruling prevails, whether in the 9th Circuit or at the Supreme Court, much of what the Oregon legislature wants to accomplish will be null and void. _________________________ “Remember, remember the fifth of November!" | |||
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