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bully's will continue to get "taken care of" , as long as bully's choose to call attention to themselves , people will retaliate . side with the gay or side with the bully , either way the friction will eventually cause a fire Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency. Neck Ties, Hats and ammo brass, Never ,ever touch'em w/o asking first | |||
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Trannies with mental illness, suicidial thoughts, self hate; wouldn't it be a great idea to let trans serve in the military, you know where there are guns and bombs and classified secrets and tanks and such. A recipe for disaster in the making. It's a shame that youth is wasted on the young --- Mark Twain Anyone who is not a liberal by age 20 has no heart; anyone who is not a conservative by age 40 has no brain---Winston Churchill | |||
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There is no need to be derogatory. Arc. ______________________________ "Like a bitter weed, I'm a bad seed"- Johnny Cash "I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel." - Pee Wee Herman Rode hard, put away wet. RIP JHM "You're a junkyard dog." - Lupe Flores. RIP | |||
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This whole transsexual and drag queen fad for children needs to stop. | |||
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Kendrick is a hero. God bless him. | |||
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Agreed. It is not for children, and they should not be exposed to it. Someone who is transgender, is not the same as a transexual, or a drag queen. These are three separate things, guys. If you are going to penalize a leftist for not knowing the difference between a magazine and a clip, then you also need to use the proper terms in this case. Arc. ______________________________ "Like a bitter weed, I'm a bad seed"- Johnny Cash "I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel." - Pee Wee Herman Rode hard, put away wet. RIP JHM "You're a junkyard dog." - Lupe Flores. RIP | |||
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| Bolt Thrower |
I’m including it all. I’m sure you have seen the examples why during your web browsing. | |||
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Apparently, school officials were aware he was a danger, chose to do nothing. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/c...ommitting-this-kind/ __________________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always remember that others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself. Richard M Nixon It's nice to be important, it's more important to be nice. Billy Joe Shaver NRA Life Member | |||
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I disagree. They chose to let it happen, because it fits their agenda. Arc. ______________________________ "Like a bitter weed, I'm a bad seed"- Johnny Cash "I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel." - Pee Wee Herman Rode hard, put away wet. RIP JHM "You're a junkyard dog." - Lupe Flores. RIP | |||
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That has nothing to do with what I was saying. Kindly do not twist my words. The terms transgender, transsexual, and drag queen all have distinct definitions. I recommend you either educate yourself or stow your bullshit. Additionally, "tranny" is a pejorative. Guys. I have no patience for the leftist nonsense of a "spectrum" and the made up pronouns and all that. But there are indeed functioning adults out there who are transgender. They just want to live life and be left alone. Like a lot of us. If you want to hate on these people, take it somewhere else. There is a distinct line between what a child or minor should be exposed to, and what an adult can do with their own life. I give zero fucks how someone chooses to live, as long as they give me the same courtesy. There is no doubt that the left is increasingly nuts, and the media is biased, and these are just a few of the things going on. This thread is about a mass shooting, where the shooters are LGBT. If you want to make it about transgender, please discuss it without disparaging it. Arc. ______________________________ "Like a bitter weed, I'm a bad seed"- Johnny Cash "I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel." - Pee Wee Herman Rode hard, put away wet. RIP JHM "You're a junkyard dog." - Lupe Flores. RIP | |||
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These are established terms. I'm not just speaking to you, I'm speaking to everybody. Obviously there are two biological sexes. The terms transgender, transsexual, and drag queen have specific definitions. It's that simple. You agreed to something I did not state. Don't play games with me. If it's not clear, the analogy is as simple as asking the left to understand the difference between a magazine and a clip, and to use and understand the terms properly. If you aren't willing to do that, you don't have the decorum necessary for civil discussion, so take your leave. Have you absorbed what I've said in this thread, or previously on this topic? Human adults have an appropriate level of freedom an autonomy. One that we all expect to enjoy. Whether other adults choose to be transgender or whatever, is of little concern to me, and really it should be nobodies fucking business. In the case of children, and certainly in the context of kids that have perpetrated a mass shooting, this is a serious issue. I don't "feel derailed," I expect accuracy of language, if we're going to give a topic due attention. Arc. ______________________________ "Like a bitter weed, I'm a bad seed"- Johnny Cash "I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel." - Pee Wee Herman Rode hard, put away wet. RIP JHM "You're a junkyard dog." - Lupe Flores. RIP | |||
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Kindly lay out exactly what you disagree about. I've made an effort to be crystal clear. Specifically about terms and their definitions. If you disagree about the terms used in a discussion, then there is no discussion. Again, you "agreed" that I was saying the "proper terms are male and female." That is not at all what I said, you were either mistaken or dishonest. I'm not concerned which. I say what I mean, I mean what I say. You appear to be conflating "proper terms" with descriptions that have nothing to do with the actual terms of transgender, transsexual, or drag queen. If you'd like to start a new thread to discuss what transgender is, by all means do so. This thread is about a recent mass shooting perpetrated by some children. There are a number of elements here that are dangerous to our society, not actually this trans business, but how it is being foisted on young minds. This is a complex issue, I don't mind discussing it at all. Accuracy of language is key, so we can communicate. Arc. ______________________________ "Like a bitter weed, I'm a bad seed"- Johnny Cash "I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel." - Pee Wee Herman Rode hard, put away wet. RIP JHM "You're a junkyard dog." - Lupe Flores. RIP | |||
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Dude, you are still in the wrong. It doesn't matter how you "feel", you are simply wrong. To make it simple: you are conflating categories. Sex, male and female, is a category. It refers to biology. The other category, transgender, transsexual, transvestite, is simply NOT the same as male and female. It is an ideation and/or an action taken in spite of biology (or perhaps because of it, in the case of mental illness). They male/female and trans-____ are simply not the same category, no matter what you "feel". You're wrong. Moreover, sexuality is a third, distinct category. It is also separate from biological sex (though likely interrelated). You are ignorant of the denotation of the terms and have become hung up on your own connotation. This is precisely what Arc said it is: ignorance of terminology and an insistence on entering into a debate, then wondering why the other side thinks you're a rube. ---------------------------- Chuck Norris put the laughter in "manslaughter" Educating the youth of America, one declension at a time. | |||
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The Joy Maker |
Words mean things, and the language changes, try and keep up. 
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You can kick around the motivations of the kids until the cows come home, but for me, the parents are largely responsible. How about not tolerating (or noticing) or encouraging behavior in your kid that only serves to ostracize or isolate him at school? How about pay attention to what your kid is doing, saying, thinking and his so called "friends"? And lastly, (and most importantly) LOCK UP or secure (think serious safe) or remove your firearms from the home if your kid is showing signs of troubled behaviors. I believe most of these HS level shooters got guns from their families. I realize kids can pretty stealthy in keeping things from parents, but i find it hard to believe that parents are completely ignorant of whats going on with their kids. End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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its always The Parents or lack thereof Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency. Neck Ties, Hats and ammo brass, Never ,ever touch'em w/o asking first | |||
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So, you're "disagreeing" by not acknowledging terms used to discuss this topic? First, you're being ridiculous. Second, if you can't be bothered to have an adult discussion, stay out of this thread. Regardless of how you feel about it, transgender people exist, so do transsexuals, drag queens, and lots of other functional adults out there just existing like everyone else. If you're going to insist that there is "Male, Female, and Deluded," that's bigotry, not an opinion. People who don't need to cast out entire groups as mentally ill aren't "woke," we just aren't closed minded. There is indeed a higher rate of mental illness and suicide among the LGBT community. It's not simply "oh they're all mentally ill." A big part of it is they have to try to be who they are in a society filled with a lot of people like you. That is exceptionally stressful to say the least. Mental illness is a huge part of what creates mass shooters. People who have a support network, who feel they are a part of a community, these people don't commit mass shootings. Regardless of sex, gender, religion, or politics, mass shooters are virtually all some manor of social outcast or loner. They are getting back at a group that has excluded them. By simply refusing to acknowledge terms like Transgender and others, you're part of the problem, not the solution to either mass shootings, or what to do with LGBT youth that actually helps them and treats them like people.
I do think that peoples perception of the media and politicians is beginning to turn, if what happened at that vigil was any indication. The mainstream media absolutely has a bias, and on more than one occasion has made false claims about the identity or motivation of a shooter before the facts had come out. Certainly on social media and many web boards, the left froths for any mass shooting to be committed by a conservative, and will happily report on those and call for gun control. They'll try to make anyone white and male out to be conservative or "far-right," etc. That this tragedy was perpetrated by LGBT teenagers absolutely shatters their narrative, and therefore it's not a priority in the news cycle. Just like when a good guy with a gun stops or entirely prevents a tragedy, they aren't interested in that. The Left, and the Right, certainly have both bred their own unique brands of intolerance. Only the Left claims to be open, tolerant and accepting meanwhile doing the opposite. Arc. ______________________________ "Like a bitter weed, I'm a bad seed"- Johnny Cash "I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel." - Pee Wee Herman Rode hard, put away wet. RIP JHM "You're a junkyard dog." - Lupe Flores. RIP | |||
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From the Blaze: Violent and illegal: Father of alleged STEM shooter arrested a lot and deported TWICE
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As an fyi Arc,, douglas county (where this happened) is very pro-trump and pro-gun. I was surprised and elated at the vigil response, but i think the response has more to do with the kids getting proper education from thier parents in that county. ---------------------------- "Voldemorte himself created his worst enemy, just as tyrants everywhere do! Have you any idea how much tyrants fear the people they oppress? All of them realize that, one day, amongst their many victims, there is sure to be one who rises against them and strikes back!" Book 6 - Ch 23 | |||
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That is probably the finest summation i have read , or heard. | |||
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