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Leaving policing has made my life soooo much better, no stress, no one trying to kill me, the bosses not trying to fuck you over for actually doing your job, being able to freely express my feelings...the list goes on.

Amen to that brother.

We are already over 200 short. I expect a mass exodus in between now and the end of the year. I know a lot are leaving. We have a 30 year retirement. That’s a loooooong time.

I’m in too deep to leave.

Any reason they can't just leave big city policing? Shouldn't there be opportunities for some of these guys at smaller rural PD's that are understaffed?

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Originally posted by stoic-one:
Any reason they can't just leave big city policing? Shouldn't there be opportunities for some of these guys at smaller rural PD's that are understaffed?

Many of the MPD will search and find work in the northern part of the state away from the metro madness. Many already have lake and vacation property up here so the prospect of them living up here year around is a option for them.

One of my friend is with the Seattle PD. He’s up his retirement date to within gThe next two years. One point he mentioned was the force is ageing and many will be able to retire soon.

Mainly money. And, at least in NC, civil service protection. Most agencies don’t have that, some of the larger ones do. All our sheriff departments are at-will and tend to be quick to fire.

It’d be a $20,000 cut on average for most of mine if they went to a smaller agency. Plus a lot work extra gigs and make as much as an extra grand a month.

And even the smaller agencies aren’t immune to this mess. My large agency is actually very pro-Officer. It’s the courts and public opinion with the strength of social media, and they have no bounds.

But if we have fewer policemen, we will have less violence in society. Isn't that what the media and many politicians tell us??

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Originally posted by stoic-one:
Any reason they can't just leave big city policing? Shouldn't there be opportunities for some of these guys at smaller rural PD's that are understaffed?

Rural PDs are vanishing. Cities are finding that financially it pays(!) to contract with the county. Where I am, there used to be 4 PDs along with the Sheriff's department. Two have gone, which is a loss of 3.5FT cops. The SO has only hired 2 extra deputies, so a net loss of 1.5FT positions, + the on call coverage the PDs used to supply.

The latest one to go used to have 1 FT and 3 PT officers and covered the city 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Now the city has a contract for 24 hours coverage a week with the county, which does not include ordinance enforcement.

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economy is crapped out by COVID. so they still have bills to pay.

Not really. Other smaller agencies are picking them up. A friend just got a nice bonus for moving over to another department recently.

Hiring already certified saves a lot of time and money.

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The latest one to go used to have 1 FT and 3 PT officers and covered the city 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

How does 1 FT and 3 PT cover a town 24/7? Do they not get vacations, time off for comp?

Agencies that small should consolidate. Is the 1 FT a Chief?

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But if we have fewer policemen, we will have less violence in society.

NYPD has been cooking the books for years. Playing fast and loose with how an incident is classified can affect the crime rate to a large extent.

Last year I had a long talk with two NYPD patrol officers attending a NH match. The morale was crap and he couldn't wait to get out. He wasn't alone.

Seeing the Atlanta officer charged today, I would be looking for the exit if I was in the LE business.

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How does 1 FT and 3 PT cover a town 24/7? Do they not get vacations, time off for comp?

Agencies that small should consolidate. Is the 1 FT a Chief?

Yep, he was. The PT covered his days off and there was a lot of unpaid call time involved.

I’m glad I left when I did two years ago, we were hamstrung and felt the targets on our backs then. Now, especially after hearing that the Atlanta officers were charged today I would resign immediately, mid shift even. Pension and pay don’t mean shit when everyday is a roll of the dice to loose everything just for doing the job.

This country definitely needs a week or two of blue flu, starting with state and all forms of capital police. Then all officers assigned to protective details for the mayors and such, let these politicians feel the fallout first. It really needs to be a 100% effort, every single officer needs to burn that sick leave.

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Originally posted by chongosuerte:
We are already over 200 short. I expect a mass exodus in between now and the end of the year. I know a lot are leaving. We have a 30 year retirement. That’s a loooooong time.

I’m in too deep to leave.

I'm of the opinion that this is the plan: reduce the police forces by accelerated attrition, then replace them with the Taliban (or whatever these CHOP-dusters are calling themselves these days). They don't want NO police, they want THEM to be the police.

If your a Police officer in Minnesota, New York, or Georgia, walk away.

Just walk away and find a different job, it’s not worth it, the government will not protect you from aggressive prosecution.

In fact any white police officer in any state should consider another job.

The rule of law is dead, we are now a land of mob rule and public opinion.

If the Dept. Chief dosen't know who is and is not working , perhaps he should go down to dispatch and do a roll call.

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Originally posted by kimber1911:....
The rule of law is dead, we are now a land of mob rule and public opinion.

There may be some ebb and flow along the way, but I think that's the direction we are headed.

If what is being reported is true, looks like there are a lot of Atlanta police officers that didn’t show up for work.....

Heard from a friend that lives in Atlanta that large numbers of Atlanta officers did not show up for work for the evening shift. Large numbers are now walking off the job now in solidarity.

Atlanta Police Officers In Multiple Districts Walk Off Job

Multiple sources on Twitter are reporting that a large portion of the Atlanta Police Department’s officers have or are in the process of walking off the job. My contacts in the Atlanta Police Department inform me that members from evening shift Zone 4 walked off the job shortly followed by Officers in Zone 3 and 6.

https://www.lawofficer.com/atl...fficers-are-walking/

Google it - it's happening.

If they are truly not showing up in large enough numbers, they may be doing more to defend this nation than they would, had they gone to work.

This nonsense has got to stop.
God Bless those officers.

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Originally posted by RHINOWSO:
This country needs about 1-2 weeks of the "Blue Flu", country wide.

Agreed I don’t know why this isn’t a thing already. 2 weeks. Let’s see if folks like living in South Africa. My guess is they won’t.