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The emergency light bar was mounted to the roll bar that's part of the flatbed and completely visible no matter what position the bed is in. It was not on the cab of the truck and blocked from view. | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
^^^Was it even on? I see NO flashing lights on that flatbed whatsoever... ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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Savor the limelight |
This article says yes according to the accident report: "The tow truck, described as a roll-back wrecker, was parked in the left lane with its emergency lights activated, the accident report said. Authorities had been on the scene responding to an earlier incident. Georgia State Patrol Lt. Crystal Zion told WSB-TV that the crash underscores the importance of Georgia’s “Move Over” Law. “When you see those lights to slow down, move over,” she said." Link I couldn't see the lights on the GSP vehicles to the officer's left as he was running towards the rolled over vehicle. One would think they had to be on as well. I believe they can be activated front and back which could explain why we can't see them from the front in the video. | |||
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Alexander Shunnarah or morris & morris will make this gal some money. There’s gotta be some shared liability with the wrecker on this one. And I’m taking my 15 year old to the DMV this am so he can try to get his learners permit ! I will have to show him this | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
So he can learn how to do a better job of sticking the landing next time? | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
Well, none of us was there, so... The article says, or the report says doesn't mean shit! At least two of the Cruisers do NOT show emergency strobes/flashing lights in the video, and neither does the flatbed as far as I can tell...NO strobes anywhere on that truck are visibly activated. And while one 'could' activate only the rear lights, why the hell would anyone do that? Surely the flatbed would've had both the rear facing AND the front facing lights 'rolling' when they arrived on the scene. Were they shut off mistakenly? Were they actually on at the time? It doesn't appear so, but who knows. I think 'that the crash underscores the stupidity of those controlling the scene', as well as that of the guy operating the flatbed, and driver! Curiously, there was a passenger in the car as well, but it would seem that neither saw that flatbed. This is speculation of course, but if the emergency lights were activated, surely one of the two would have noticed before it was too late, don't ya think? That said, we live is a litigious society, and that video will certainly be introduced in court. I stand by my assertion...She may be due 'significant compensation', and there will be plenty of attorneys that'll be more than willing take up the charge on her behalf. ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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Don't Panic |
That's what struck me, too. All those police and equipment, and nothing flashing behind the tow truck, at least none evident in that clip. Lots of stuff flashing on the other side...nothing on that side. Car on the right, right beside the soon-to-be-launched car, so it couldn't swerve at the last second. Maybe going full "Dukes" was the right choice - if she'd swerved off to her left might have wound up plowing through a bunch of the LEOs on the scene. Not clear what caused all that equipment and personnel to be there in the first place - looks there'd been a prior incident on the other side of the highway and that's where the attention was put. I think a bunch of this will wind up in the tow truck driver's lap, unless there's more than what we see in the clip. Might want to have words with the guy in the yellow high-visibility vest (LEO?) who was just calmly walking in front of the cab of the tow truck as well...he must have known the truck was in the lane...why wasn't he doing something helpful like putting down cones, lights etc.? | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
^^^Cause? Hard to tell from the video, but it kinda' looks like a rollover (from the other direction?) in the median, and two perps placed in handcuffs (one being searched) right in front of the F150 when the Officer with the bodycam walks by, says 'good' and gives the thumbs up. ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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Exactly ! It’s all about technique. If she had hit it strait on and not at that slight edge of the ramp I don’t think she would have rolled. But the increase of an end over end would have been greater. Watching mythbusters for years taught me there is a lot of physics involved with ramp angle and approach speed. Young drivers need to learn all that. | |||
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Coin Sniper |
It is not uncommon for drivers to get focused on an object or activity and unconsciously drive towards it. A classic example of this was almost 40 years ago when I was a kid. Dad, sister and I were out for a bike ride. My animal lover sister saw a bird on a telephone wire on the other side of the road and became so focused on it, her riding path was heading straight in that direction until a mail box got in the way. I saw this quite often working accidents on freeways, people get focused on the lights, apparatus, and incident and find themselves driving right for it. Great way to get hit if you're foolish enough to step out between vehicles anywhere near a traffic path. I've seen several police cars and an apparatus hit that way. It's possible she was so focused on what was happening on the other side of the freeway and lost bearing on where she was going. Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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semi-reformed sailor |
And who is responsible to see that the roadway in front of you is clear and safe to travel upon? The wrecker had a lightbar atop the rollbar/front of the bed. It may have been set in the “back or rear” setting only displaying yellow towards the rear traffic And while one 'could' activate only the rear lights, why the hell would anyone do that? Because led lightbars are blindingly bright. As a cop I always set the bar to the “back” setting so it wouldn’t blind me while I was doing stuff at a wreck scene. At a traffic stop they stayed on 360°. "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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That is crazy! I was impressed by the officer making his way to that car while it was still in the air. Hats off to him and those of you who run towards danger to help like that... | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
I'm aware they're 'really' bright, but in the daytime? At an accident scene? Wet road conditions? I've seen that at a Traffic Stop, but NEVER at an Accident Scene! ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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The light bar on a roll back tow truck is mounted at the forward end of the bed, on top of the barrier that sits behind the cab when in the down position. Specifically so it is not blocked when the bed is tilted up. You can see it in the video. It may have a “rear only” flash mode as well. | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
There 'may' be regional differences here, so maybe just not a thing in the south, but EVERY Emergency Vehicle I've ever seen in the Northeast has alternating strobes in the directional and marker light housings. As such, I'd expect to see something flashing on all four corners of the vehicle in addition to the light bar, regardless of how it's activated. ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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Imagine the damage if she had arrived moments earlier with the tow truck's bed still horizontal and 3' off the deck. The Nissan would have hit the back end at full speed with the flatbed right around torso height. P229 | |||
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All of this talk about distracted driver and failure to move over is pure BS! If you adjust the volume and increase the treble when watching the video, you can clearly hear the driver say "Hey - watch this!" | |||
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Little ray of sunshine |
I assume Georgia has some proportionate/comparative responsibility negligence rules, which means that she can only recover the proportion of her damages caused by the wrecker driver, and not for the part caused by her own fault. A fact-finder will be asked to determine how much, as a percentage, is her fault and how much is the wrecker driver's. And further, in some states (Texas is one), if the plaintiff's own negligence exceeds 50%, that plaintiff cannot recover. The older rule is that if you are at all responsible (even 1%), you can't recover at all. This is a minority view in the U.S., and it may be that no states still do it this way. If she was looking at her cell phone a jury may well hang a lot of contrib on her. But the wrecker was on the highway, and there was no traffic cone or flare, so . . . That is what trials are for. Trying to speculate on how this will play out based on 30 seconds of video is the height of folly. There is so much we don't know just by looking at the video. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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Drill Here, Drill Now |
Depends on age of flatbed. They implemented underride protection laws 20+ years ago to require designers and fabricators to provide both a low bumper and a tested bumper that wouldn't let a car bury itself up to the driver. Of course, like all mandated designs they're at a prescribed speed (in this case 35 mph) so it may not prevent underride at limited access freeway speeds. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
Well then what the hell is even the point of internet discussions if we can't jump to conclusions based on little to no information?! () | |||
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