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One more tidbit to add, I had a 20KW Briggs and Stratton installed last year. There is no way I am paying someone else to service - I do it myself.

The B&S generator is designed well and offers easy access. Panels pull off the front and rear giving open access to change the oil, filter and even spark plugs. It’s a 900 something CC V-Twin, the same engine used in other equipment (like riding lawn mowers). Parts are easy to find too.

Mine just hit 80 hours so I changed out everything except the air filter (since it still looks new).

I am pleased to finally own something designed to be worked on - even for a guy with big mitts like mine.
 
Posts: 4348 | Location: Friendswood Texas | Registered: August 24, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Just for clarity, you have a Honda inverter generator and want to parallel a second Honda generator with it.

Yes, you can use the parallel kit to connect the two Hondas.

As far as power to all the 120 circuits on the panel, maybe? Logically speaking, turning off the 240 breakers and wiring both hot feeds at the outlet together would do that. That doesn’t mean there isn’t a good reason not to do that though.


Was thinking the Honda setup would be thriftier.

Haven't yet used the 240v capability of the bigger generator, even though that's what it feeds the panel.




 
Posts: 11438 | Location: Texas | Registered: January 29, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Reminds me, need to change the oil, put in a new oil pressure sensor, had to disconnect it the last time as it failed during the approach of a hurricane and there was no time to get parts.
 
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If you get the proper parallel kit for your Hondas, it will sync the 120 outputs into a 240 output, and you would hook it from that to your house the same way you use the 240 plug now.

You would NOT use the 120 outlets on your Hondas, only use the proper parallel outputs (White, Red, Black plug terminals).

The 240 going into your panel will energize the 120 outlets in the house if the interlock feed was done correctly.




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Posts: 3408 | Location: Southern Maine | Registered: February 10, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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^^^ I seriously doubt Honda has the ability to parallel a non-honda, non-inverter generator rated at a different output voltage.



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Posts: 21376 | Location: Loudoun County, Virginia | Registered: December 27, 2014Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Point of clarification, I meant to acquire a second Honda inverter to parallel. Smile




 
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That only gets you 3,600 watts continuous Link for two EU2200i generators.
 
Posts: 12226 | Location: SWFL | Registered: October 10, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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If you get the proper parallel kit for your Hondas, it will sync the 120 outputs into a 240 output, and you would hook it from that to your house the same way you use the 240 plug now.

You would NOT use the 120 outlets on your Hondas, only use the proper parallel outputs (White, Red, Black plug terminals).

The 240 going into your panel will energize the 120 outlets in the house if the interlock feed was done correctly.


this is incorrect. if you use a parallel kit with compatible Honda gensets you will get more watts and more amps, not 240v.
 
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If you get the proper parallel kit for your Hondas, it will sync the 120 outputs into a 240 output, and you would hook it from that to your house the same way you use the 240 plug now.

You would NOT use the 120 outlets on your Hondas, only use the proper parallel outputs (White, Red, Black plug terminals).

The 240 going into your panel will energize the 120 outlets in the house if the interlock feed was done correctly.


this is incorrect. if you use a parallel kit with compatible Honda gensets you will get more watts and more amps, not 240v.


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Posts: 31213 | Location: Elv. 7,000 feet, Utah | Registered: October 29, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I stand corrected. Honda no longer has the 240 parallel option unless you are using the eu7000is.




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Thanks all! May be easier just to try to sell the big champion to fund part of a bigger inverter generator. It appears that my EU2000i's serial # is too old to parallel with the newer Eu2200 companion anyway...




 
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Will 14kw run your house? If not, why not get one that will?

Just a note I learned when buying mine, this is from the electrician/owner of the company. He suggested not buying a whole house that was only big enough to run the house when at 100% of capacity since it would work everything harder. Going up some on KW rating was insignificant so I stuck with 20KW and was running no more than 40% of max this past week. The electrician evaluated my usage and spec’s the transfer switch and electrical using that. Not sure why you need to figure it out.


Mrvmax - No Sir a 14kw will not but my thoughts centered around buying one that would run the first floor of our home since the second floor is only used when the grandkids are here - BUT - reading your comments does make me re-think as to the need to “condition” the air on the second floor of our home because if we are without power for several days I am betting the humidity we experience, with no air movement, could be a recipe for mold growth.

Thanks for your comments - I plan to re-think this and have our electrician evaluate what size unit would be needed to run the entire home. Not 100% sure we can afford to cost difference but it just may be we have to save a little longer before purchasing (on a fixed income right now). Thanks for your feedback. Now to get back with my electrician to determine what size is needed to support our entire home.
 
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One more thing I'm doing, I'm installing a soft start on my ac. It will spread out the sudden power demand when my ac compressor turns on. If you're running a smaller portable gen, it could allow you to run your ac too.

Let's inns of start
 
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One more thing I'm doing, I'm installing a soft start on my ac. It will spread out the sudden power demand when my ac compressor turns on. If you're running a smaller portable gen, it could allow you to run your ac too.

Let's inns of start
These work pretty well. Soft starter I used allowed me run my HVAC with 5400w 2 phase LP generator several years back, prior to my whole-house install(24kw). As I sit here my 3 ton heat pump is pulling 2.65kw, but it's the compressor startup that ruins the party if not accounted for properly.


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Will 14kw run your house? If not, why not get one that will?

Just a note I learned when buying mine, this is from the electrician/owner of the company. He suggested not buying a whole house that was only big enough to run the house when at 100% of capacity since it would work everything harder. Going up some on KW rating was insignificant so I stuck with 20KW and was running no more than 40% of max this past week. The electrician evaluated my usage and spec’s the transfer switch and electrical using that. Not sure why you need to figure it out.


Mrvmax - No Sir a 14kw will not but my thoughts centered around buying one that would run the first floor of our home since the second floor is only used when the grandkids are here - BUT - reading your comments does make me re-think as to the need to “condition” the air on the second floor of our home because if we are without power for several days I am betting the humidity we experience, with no air movement, could be a recipe for mold growth.

Thanks for your comments - I plan to re-think this and have our electrician evaluate what size unit would be needed to run the entire home. Not 100% sure we can afford to cost difference but it just may be we have to save a little longer before purchasing (on a fixed income right now). Thanks for your feedback. Now to get back with my electrician to determine what size is needed to support our entire home.


The cost difference is not that large, especially if you are lucky to have all three components close to each other. Gas meter/propane connection; electrical meter/panel; and Gen location. If they are close wire sizes doesn't change costs much. Also a bonus if your A/C or furnace or thermostat is located near ATS as well. Any trenching needed is the same length. Gas hookup might change $100-200 for larger pipe or split system hookup.

Find the 14kw generator online plus the small disconnect. Then compare the cost of the 20/22kw generator and service rated transfer switch. You'll find the cost difference isn't that much.

If you have 300' runs for gas and electric it's completely different math. On a 'easy' install the size doesn't matter as much as you think



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If you have 300' runs for gas and electric it's completely different math. On a 'easy' install the size doesn't matter as much as you think


This added some significant cost to ours. IIRC, 150ft estimated elec run from one side of the house to the other, through the attic.




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Down here in NE Florida a 22kw Generac,2 120gal propane tanks,installation,auto transfer panel, pipe,electrical work ran 18k$ and change. Lowest price I got...
 
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One more thing I'm doing, I'm installing a soft start on my ac. It will spread out the sudden power demand when my ac compressor turns on. If you're running a smaller portable gen, it could allow you to run your ac too.

Let's inns of start
These work pretty well. Soft starter I used allowed me run my HVAC with 5400w 2 phase LP generator several years back, prior to my whole-house install(24kw). As I sit here my 3 ton heat pump is pulling 2.65kw, but it's the compressor startup that ruins the party if not accounted for properly.



I am using one from MicroAir. An older model than this one, but it works great. My inrush amps went from 115a max to around 45a. Before, my 15kwa generator could barely start my 5 ton AC, but after the EasyStart, the generator barely changes its tone when the AC starts. This is my third summer with it. I’m very pleased. An added bonus is that it is much easier and safer for your equipment, even when you are using line power.
The EasyStart from MicroAir



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Interlock panel installed today. Haven’t gotten home to test yet



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