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Of course. Thank you, you beat me to it.  "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Has any one person, ever, in the entire history of human education, at all levels and in all roles, done something so good that it would warrant spending $22,000/day on their goons? What in the ever-loving fuck could it possibly be? Who are these rockstars and veritable gods of education and what were their contributions? How is this not outrageous to all? It's this shit, and $20,000 dinner tables, and a zillion examples of a similarly wasteful nature that are at the very core of everything that's wrong with our government. She could have what may be the next The Republic simply falling out her nether regions as she walks, one typed and double-spaced page at a time, and it would still be a crazy cost. | |||
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And as for the Hit Piece comment on the first page, I don't approach this as a partisan issue, and I don't give a damn which side did what, this sort of extreme yet unnecessary expense on a person/role of marginal importance and questionable necessity is something I'd expect would enrage any so-called Conservative. Or have some of y'all forgotten those aspects of conservatism? Have you simply given up? No longer care what we spend money on? I'm appalled by it. I wish I could say I'm surprised. | |||
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The question is incorrect. The correct question is "why in this day and age do we need to spend money on security for public officials like the secretary of education?" See the difference? I don't care about her opinion. She should not need security from the masses. Her security has NOTHING TO DO with her billet and everything to do with her appointer. Big difference. | |||
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I have to ask, 46and2, would you be this irate if Steve Scalice was shot up more recently? She's a proponent for firing public school teachers. That's beyond attacking the mob/mafia. And we've seen what the left and media can do when they are pissed. | |||
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Yup....The BIG problem(s) are the Violent & Intolerant Left-wing Extremists! The bigger problem is that there are actually Democrat officials (Maxine Waters being the most outspoken) that publicly encourage such abhorrent behavior! ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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We don't. Because nothing they can conceivably do, job related, is worth that much. It's like paying Millions a year to protect the Dog Catcher, in terms of importance and necessity. Her role isn't even mentioned in the Constitution, and the entire Cabinet is only mentioned once, and barely at that, if we want to start considering which question is valid. Everything about this is crazy, wasteful, wrong, and unnecessary. | |||
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Take a look at the 45 Declared Goals For The Communist Takeover Of America which scared enough people that a congressman read it into congressional record in 1963. They're largely accomplished in the last 45 years, and education/students/teachers unions were a big target of their goals:
Back to DeVos, she is a proponent of school choice and school vouchers which would put a stake thru the heart of a major communist mechanism that they've successfully achieved or mostly achieved the goals above. [sarcasm]it's not as if communists haven't killed hundreds of millions of people[/sarcasm] Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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Apples and Toyotas. Steve Scalice was shot by a crazed loon who wasn't specifically after Steve, but instead targeted a large group of politicians and others, a legit Domestic Terrorist attack, that all the security teams already in place for those people didn't catch or stop either. And I bet 99.99% of the people who got shot and shot at that day don't warrant $22,000/day personal security, even now, after said shooting... so, what, you suggest they all get the same degree of protection? Countless high profile and actually important people don't... What about Sub Commanders, or SEAL Team members, or the Chairman of the Fed, or the guy who carries the Nuclear Football, or hordes upon hordes of government employees who actually have important jobs and actually do important work for America? Ridiculous. | |||
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Again, incorrect. You are not protecting the dog catcher, you are protecting the billet. No one, on either side, should be able to attack the billet holder. Whoever gets elected gets to appoint certain persons. If you do not like them then vote. Don't threaten them with physical harm. If you do they may need security until their term is over. Attacks against the cabinet holders are attacks against the executive itself. | |||
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Several years ago, Tucson Mayor was verbally threatened at a City Council meeting. A pissed off taxpayer threatened to shoot the Mayor, who then hired a Security firm for protection.....at taxpayer expense, of course. Print and Electronic media raised a stink and shortly thereafter the Security firm contract was ended. Cost was estimated at around $100,000....taxpayer money. Many of us suggested the Mayor buy a hand gun at his expense for protection. He doesn't like guns, we were told. ********* "Some people are alive today because it's against the law to kill them". | |||
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I agree, fruit and Toyotas. But lets dial it in. I would go so far as to say, the security didn't stop it, as you admit, because it was a crazed loon(not many of those on the left  ) w/ no specific target and no warning.Now if there were specific threats towards S. Scalise, do you think he would have had just a two man team w/ handguns? If that were the case, would we not all be outraged that that was the best they could do to protect him? | |||
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I agree with 46'n'2, that is a lot of coin for security for a 14th in line official. I don't know what justifies this, and why not protect every one of us that has been threatened at one time or another? How many teachers in today's classroom get threatened every week? Dude, the reference to Galaxy Quest, "By Grabthar's hammer", has me laughing so hard I just about coughed up a lung. Here's another obscure reference regarding the Office of Education. "I'm going to be straight with you here. The human race is about to be wiped out. We have fifty thousand people left and that's it. Now, if we are even going to survive as a species, then we need to get the hell out of here and we need to start having babies!" H&K-Guy | |||
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I guess I am the odd man out here but I have no problem with her having a security detail. .....never marry a woman who is mean to your waitress. | |||
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I don't think anyone here is denying it's not a lot of coin. The topic is, why? Yet she hasn't asked for that "coin" detail. What is the impetus behind it? Until we find that out, you can't rage against the person receiving the detail when she didn't request it. If you read the shitty source, she did NOT request it. | |||
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I don't think anyone is saying she doesn't need or deserve some security, just not at 22K a day. If that is so, then I vote I take over her security detail. I could probably get it done for 10K a day and pocket the rest! H&K-Guy | |||
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I don't think she should get the security. Of course, I don't think the DOE should be a department so this is an incredibly easy problem to fix. I also think that ex presidents should get security for 4 years and that is all. If they want security after that they can pay for it. They certainly seem to be able to make money while not having a job. Maybe if these people would quit acting like kings & queens they wouldn't have so many threats against them. I know for sure if they would quit stealing my money in the form of ludicrous taxes I would like them better. If you can't stand the heat don't go in to the kitchen.. Anyone not think the founders knew there would be a price to pay if they lost? And yet, they moved forward. The whole thing is out of control | |||
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Or a softball field right? | |||
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Right. I go to ball fields all the time. I provide my own protection and have yet to need it. Lots of crazy people in the world. When do I get a 24/7 professional security detail? Tell you what, I will forego mine so that my wife can have it. She is a teacher and because of lousy politicians she doesn't get to be armed at work. If it is good enough for her it is good enough for the assholes who write these laws and the assholes who can't read simple words written well over 200 years ago. You are damn right I don't think any of them deserve outlandish security details paid for with money taken from me. | |||
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No protection for any of them in todays political climate? Well, too bad Mark but you don't get to decide that so get over it. Go ahead and make your best response, but, you still don't get to decide that. Sorry. What you are intimating is that Scalice should be dead. He should have returned fire from 2nd base. Thats ridiculous. | |||
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