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"What the shootings boil down to is this. We can criticize Rittenhouse’s judgment for a) coming to Kenosha and b) getting himself isolated from compatriots and putting himself in a position where shooting was his only option. We don’t have to think that he was some exemplar of civic duty for his enlistment in what amounted to a vigilante group. But we have to keep in mind that the people he put down were men with criminal records who were acting very much like we expect violent felons to act. They weren’t heroes. They weren’t victims. They made a conscious decision to attack a man with a gun, and they got shot. That’s the end of the story."

https://www.redstate.com/strei...-acting-like-felons/

The vigilante reference is absurd.... The press cannot report without inserting some kind of derogatory label in these situations.

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Originally posted by esdunbar:
What do you guys think? This video says that a person who was running behind Rittenhouse fired a handgun BEFORE Rittenhouse turned and fired on the pedophile. If that is correct, then Antifa/BLM literally shot first.

I see what they are saying/showing in the video. Looks like they might be on to something.

The second video when they are saying what happened at 23:19
https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1298841820802297856

Pretty clear that isn't a soda bottle in a bag being fired in the air.

Crossing of the Rubicon

From American Partisan

“Crossing of the Rubicon
JC DodgeAug 27, 2020

To “Cross the Rubicon“ is a metaphor which means to take an irrevocable step that commits one to a specific course. In this case, the “One” is the communists posing as activists in groups like Burn Loot Murder (BLM), Antifa, and the host of other lesser, but just as ignorant and foolish groups who are trying to run a communist insurgency.

I believe the “Crossing” occurred early this morning around 1AM, August 26th, 2020. It consisted of a group of Communist male insurgents posing as protesting looters in Kenosha, Wisconsin. They chased down and assaulted a 17 year old, AR-15 armed, White male, who was trying to help protect the area from the looters. This assault continued to happen while he was on the ground, till he defended himself with deadly force.

You draw your conclusions, but understand this, that boy was actually standing up for his community. He lives approximately 20 miles away from Kenosha, Wisconsin in Antioch, Illinois. He had a pack of animals chasing him after he defended hself in the first shooting, and was firing from the ground when he killed a second and severely injured one with his AR-15.

As every day dawns, the communist insurgents are getting bolder and more violent. What a 17 year old Illinois resident did on the 26th and a resident of Bedford County, Pennsylvania did on the 24th showed the communists we are at the end of the fuse that was lit some time ago, and they better recognize it.

Your job is to protect your community, whether it’s on the other side of a border a couple miles away or not. Lines don’t matter, blood and friendships do. They are obviously going to try and vilify these guys because they aren’t the cowardly weasels the politicians and LEO administrators are in the affected areas.

Get ready for the “Nitro Wagon” that’s obviously coming down a bumpy road. The communists don’t have a choice now. There is no way they will win the Presidential election without a Coup. To those who would say they’re gonna mind their own business till the fight comes to their front porch, keep this in mind. If all you’re going to protect is your front porch and not help with the defense of your community, there’s a good chance that no one from the community will show up to defend your porch when the Orcs arrive there.”

Silent

A serious incident is rarely traced to a single fault. It is usually a series of events or decisions that leads to the final outcome. Remove any one, and the incident doesn't happen.

The question is which of those actions or decisions violated the law, violated another's rights, or do not align with what an average person (or one with equivalent training) would do in that situation.

I am sure it will be argued that he should have stayed home, or left the rifle at home. Perhaps. But as long as neither was illegal they are likely moot arguments.

Attacking someone who is armed seems to violate every premise noted... But that is for the courts.

However.... This will likely have an influence. Those peaceful protestors attacked a 71 year old and almost shot him for simply trying to keep looters out of his store.

https://www.kenoshanews.com/ne...ource=home-top-story

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
I am sure it will be argued that he should have stayed home, or left the rifle at home. Perhaps. But as long as neither was illegal they are likely moot arguments.

Rittenhouse is one year younger than the age of eligibility for the armed forces without parent's consent, but he is at the age to enlist if he had his parents permission. His actions did not resemble those of a mere child. Earlier in the day, he was helping to clean off graffiti left by the commies the night before, interacting with LE, etc. Reports say he was helping to protect a car dealership, possibly his father's or relative's, from being destroyed, like another did from the night before. He was interviewed moments before the conflict, saying he was there to help as much as he could, carrying a medic's bag, and a rifle for protection. He wanted to help the people in the community, to make a difference. That is wise beyond his years.

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About 15 minutes before the first shooting, police officers drive past Mr. Rittenhouse, and the other armed civilians who claim to be protecting the dealership, and offer water out of appreciation.

Mr. Rittenhouse walks up to a police vehicle carrying his rifle and talks with the officers.

He eventually leaves the dealership and is barred by the police from returning. Six minutes later footage shows Mr. Rittenhouse being chased by an unknown group of people into the parking lot of another dealership several blocks away.

While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.

Mr. Rittenhouse seems to make a phone call and then flees the scene. Several people chase him, some shouting, “That’s the shooter!”

As Mr. Rittenhouse is running, he trips and falls to the ground. He fires four shots as three people rush toward him. One person appears to be hit in the chest and falls to the ground. Another, who is carrying a handgun, is hit in the arm and runs away.

Mr. Rittenhouse’s gunfire is mixed in with the sound of at least 16 other gunshots that ring out during this time.

As this happens, police vehicles just one block away remain stationary during the gunfire.

Mr. Rittenhouse walks with his hands up toward the police vehicles. Bystanders call out to the officers that he had just shot people.

Link: NYT! HT to Instapundit

This would explain why Rittenhouse was by himself—it’s the fault of the police!

At 17, he is eligible to be in the militia. Based on his actions, "unorganized militia" seems to be the right term.

10 U.S. Code § 246 - Militia: composition and classes

(a)The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b)The classes of the militia are—

(1)the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and

(2)the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246

We can’t know at this point whether all the details of the shooting incidents will come out, especially the head shot. As we’re speculating, though, more than one of us have wondered about what we do know, which is the appearance of the thug’s head wound. We saw the damage done to the other thug’s arm from a direct bullet strike, but the head shot doesn’t look anything like that, and which I would expect to be worse, if anything. My point is that I wonder if he was hit by a ricochet or a fragment of bullet or something else.

in any event, bad guys 0, good guys 2

good shooting

Where can one find the photo of the head wound being referenced?

One needs to only see the video where there's a close-up of the perp with his final thoughts.

https://twitter.com/livesmatte.../1298484404918972417

I did see his thoughts go up in a pink cloud. Is that what's being referenced?

ETA: Thanks for the link.

I don't think he's referencing the moment of impact, just the site of the wound.

it appears to be a grazing shot, not an impact. There also isn't a whole lot of blood or brain matter. You can see that their doesn't appear to be an exit wound and the those trying to help don't have any blood on their hands, especially the ones holding the back of his head.

For all we know the dude ducked the shot and whacked his head on a bumper.

Funny to see the leftist governor's and mayor's now decrying the riots and violence after Dong Lemon and Fredo said it's showing up in polls and focus groups.

Yes, I'm referring to the wound itself which is visible in the linked video. I made a highly cropped screen shot of it, but don't know if it's appropriate to post it here.

For anyone interested, it's probably best to just look at the video. Go to 0:50.

The bloody spot pictured was evidently assumed by the people offering treatment to be the entrance wound, and if that was it, it didn't resemble a typical bullet entrance. A graze or bump in that location probably wouldn't have resulted in bleeding from the nose.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by esdunbar:
What do you guys think? This video says that a person who was running behind Rittenhouse fired a handgun BEFORE Rittenhouse turned and fired on the pedophile. If that is correct, then Antifa/BLM literally shot first.

Wasn't the sex offender the first guy shot in the car lot? Are there two guys with sex offenses? Not that it would be a surprise.

And the MSM says:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/...b7Kz&ocid=spartandhp

I'm going to make a stiff drink.

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Originally posted by rat2306:
And the MSM says:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/...b7Kz&ocid=spartandhp

I'm going to make a stiff drink.

I think I'll join you. What a sickening article.

If Nazi General Goebbels had had our corrupt media during WWII, we would probably all be speaking german today.

They are DISGUSTING! The only thing the Kenosha Kid MAY be guilty of is littering. For leaving the remains of those POSs laying in the roadway. Regards 18DAI