One report said his dad owns a business in that area.

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Originally posted by bigwagon:
I do have to question why a 17-year-old from out of town was up there with a rifle in the middle of that chaos. Not a smart move.

There are reports he was helping to defend a car dealership there, don't know the relationship between him and owner.

For a 17yo, he handled himself well, he's alive. If more adults in Kenosha came out to protect their town from violent, lawless commie anarchists, perhaps kids don't have to.

Interesting article....time will tell if Kenosha was that line



Authored by Tom Luongo via Gold, Goats, 'n Guns blog,

It would always come to this. At some point there would be a reckoning for BLM and Antifa.

The shootings in Kenosha, WI are a dividing line for America.

This is the moment where normal people finally said, “Enough. There will be consequences. “



This is a war between radicalized lunatics bathed in unquenchable envy and self-pity and those who refuse to act like victims.

But they are victims.

All of us are. On both sides of the divide.

We are victims of a vicious program to divide and conquer the U.S. through a culture war designed to dehumanize each other.

We fight among ourselves over scraps while the people who manipulated events to this point walk away laughing at the destruction.

They want the violence. They love it. They relish it. It brings them power and prestige.

To maintain their power, as the systems they’ve built fail, they have set us against each other: paid looters and rioters to become cannon fodder in their war against common decency, culture, communities and family.

All for control over the levers of political power.

In 2016 we tried to tell them, peacefully, enough was enough. We elected Donald Trump, of all people, to be our standard bearer. We did it the way we were taught was the right way, through the ballot box.

It was supposed to be the hallmark of our enlightenment, the peaceful transfer of power. It’s been anything but.

For four years we’ve endured a non-stop parade of political venality unmatched in modern history. The quest for regaining the power of the White House brooked no holds being barred.

And if Trump wouldn’t go willingly and we didn’t learn our lesson, then they would activate every cell to flood the streets with disaffected and nihilistic youths to loot and rob; using their outrageous sense of entitlement as fuel for their rage against a machine they are, unwittingly, the main cogs of.

But having watched one young man clear in his purpose to defend his town from roving thugs in Kenosha be forced (under clear conditions of self-defense) to kill two people is a dividing line we’re not coming back from.

Wars are only profitable for those that promote them. Those that fight the wars are the real victims. This kid, a hero by my personal reckoning, is also a victim and there’s no coming back from what he’s had to do.

Killing while justified is still killing. It scars you, no matter if you wear a blue uniform, fatigues or a green t-shirt.

The animals I see on the streets under the auspice of what the media calls ‘peaceful protests’ beating people to within inches of their lives for the crime of being white and defending their property have no humanity.

My livestock have more decency than these people.

And yet, in order for us to survive this dark period of history, we will still have to reach out to them and offer them peace and assistance back from the insanity that grips them now.

That will be the hardest thing for us to do, while also maintaining the resolve to do what we feel is necessary to preserve something of what we’ve built.

That is the dividing line for many of us.

Only you know where that limit is. There are a lot of people out there right now confronting that limit for the first time.

As my dad used to say, as NYPD, “I’d rather be judged by twelve than carried by six.”

We are up against people who brook no limit on their behavior. Everything is justified in the pursuit of their righteous cause. You can see in it all the video footage.

And they know it. They know that we’d rather not fight back. That, unfortunately, to people empowered by the mob and turned into bullies, is misinterpreted as weakness.

Having humanity is not weakness. It is strength.

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And nothing bursts the bubble of false bravado on display by Anfita/BLM at this point than strength of character, which defines limits, creates boundaries and establishes consequences.

The sad truth is that this is only the beginning of what’s to come. The line is crossed and from town to town, that line will be more difficult to assess than ever before.

The myth of policing is failing. There aren’t enough cops to quell these riots. The State has been revealed as their enablers.

The law has been used against property owners told they shouldn’t defend themselves or their businesses.

They’ve been afraid of being the ones who cross the line while the looters overwhelm the streets. That impulse will continue to wither. This anarcho-tyranny will not stand for much longer.

That’s what we saw it on the streets of Kenosha.

We’ll see more of it, until a new form of order asserts itself.

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Talk about controlling the narrative. I have read the entire thread on the events in Kenosha. What follows is the "reporting" from WGN. I wonder whether CNN wrote the script. Here is an excerpt:

KENOSHA, Wis. — A 17-year-old police admirer was arrested Wednesday in the killing of two people gunned down during a third night of protests in Kenosha over the police shooting of Jacob Blake.

Kyle Rittenhouse, of Antioch, Illinois, was taken into custody in Illinois on suspicion of first-degree intentional homicide. Antioch is about 15 miles from Kenosha.

Two people were shot to death Tuesday night in an attack carried out by a young white man who was caught on cellphone video opening fire in the middle of the street with a semi-automatic rifle.

“I just killed somebody,” the gunman could be heard saying at one point during the rampage that erupted just before midnight.

In the wake of the killings, Wisconsin Gov. Tony Evers authorized 500 members of the National Guard to support local law enforcement around Kenosha, doubling the number of troops sent in. The governor’s office said he is working with other states to bring in additional National Guard troops and law officers. Authorities also announced a 7 p.m. curfew.

“A senseless tragedy like this cannot happen again,” the governor, a Democrat, said in a statement. “I again ask those who choose to exercise their First Amendment rights please do so peacefully and safely, as so many did last night. I also ask the individuals who are not there to exercise those rights to please stay home and let local first responders, law enforcement and members of the Wisconsin National Guard do their jobs.”

One victim was shot in the head and the other in the chest, Sheriff David Beth told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. A third person suffered gunshot wounds not believed to be life-threatening.

“We were all chanting ‘Black lives matter’ at the gas station and then we heard, boom, boom, and I told my friend, ‘That’s not fireworks,’” 19-year-old protester Devin Scott told the Chicago Tribune. “And then this guy with this huge gun runs by us in the middle of the street and people are yelling, ‘He shot someone! He shot someone!’ And everyone is trying to fight the guy, chasing him and then he started shooting again.”

Scott said he cradled a lifeless victim in his arms, and a woman started performing CPR, but “I don’t think he made it.”

According to witness accounts and video footage, police apparently let the young man responsible for the shootings walk past them with a rifle over his shoulder as members of the crowd were yelling for him to be arrested because he had shot people.

Rittenhouse, identified in court papers as a lifeguard at a YMCA in Lindenhurst, Illinois, was assigned a public defender in Illinois for a hearing Friday on handing him over to Wisconsin authorities. The public defender’s office had no comment.

Much of Rittenhouse’s Facebook page is devoted to praising law enforcement, with references to Blue Lives Matter, a movement that supports police. He also can be seen holding an assault rifle.

Other photographs include those of badges of various law enforcement agencies, including the Chicago Police Department. All of the badges have a black line across them — something police officers do with black tape or other material whenever an officer is killed in the line of duty.

In a photograph posted by his mother, he is wearing what appears to be a blue law enforcement uniform as well as the kind of brimmed hat that state troopers wear.


LINK; https://wgntv.com/news/teen-su...antioch-sources-say/

quote:

Originally posted by bigdeal:

quote:

Originally posted by bigwagon:
Zero fucks given for any of the shit stains that took bullets in Kenosha this week, including the original perp. They all got what they deserve, but I do have to question why a 17-year-old from out of town was up there with a rifle in the middle of that chaos. Not a smart move.

It could turn out he was there with a relative as part of that local militia group to help protect a friend or family members business. Who knows at this point. We'll have to wait and see how this plays out.

Maybe, but I have a 16-yo who can shoot an AR and if I was out protecting my business, I wouldn't bring him along and leave him alone to fend for himself in the middle of a rioting mob.

^^ I'd like to know how he found himself along with these crazies. He was earlier in the night part of a group.

quote:

Originally posted by bigwagon:

Maybe, but I have a 16-yo who can shoot an AR and if I was out protecting my business, I wouldn't bring him along and leave him alone to fend for himself in the middle of a rioting mob.

I agree 100%.

I also wouldn't leave ANY friend of mine alone in a war zone like that (and face it, that place WAS a "war zone"). NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER leave your wingman behind, and NEVER get into a situation like that without somebody to watch your back. Of course, he could have had backup and got separated, but we dont' know that at this point.

They are calling them victims? Whatever.

For those who might be interested in how the WI events are being shown by foreign media, I have 2 video links below - both being english language reports.


This is from France 24 channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3hjmPxys-8

This is from Germany - Deutsche Welle (German Wave as in Radio wave); their version of Voice of America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52FrfdN8WYI

This one is interesting in that DW show a Washington Militia group and try to portray them as right wing wackos. Again anything right is evil and anything left is saintly.

The militia group comes across quite rational.

All them guns in civilian hands and no civil war blood-bath since the 1860's. Amazing.

So it's agreed then,
Cancel B-ball, football, baseball
and
Enlist the 36,000 people that want the problem to be solved
To actually put in forty hours a week
to realize a resolution.

Then and only then will they return to playing games.

Seems simple enough

The negative spin regarding Kyle is disgusting, though completely unsurprising.

Once he tripped while being chased and was descended upon by the skateboard guy and others, I see nothing that wasn't totally justified in self defense. Kyle handled himself fantastically, all things considered.

Just to add perspective. It is 21 miles from the middle of this kids home town to the middle of Kenosha. He is for all practical purposes a local.

quote:

Originally posted by esdunbar:
I'm not so sure that the guy with the new hole in his head threw a Molotov cocktail. If you look at the earlier videos, he's holding a largish plastic bag. I think that's what he threw and it look like it was on fire, but it was really just the light from the building shining through it.

I disagree. You can hear the glass clank on the pavement. The thing didn't burst because bottle glass is meant to bounce instead of shattering, and it wasn't the best throw. Looks like a lit molotov cocktail, sounds like a molotov, and the guy with the rifle responded as if it were a molotov. I'm gonna go with Occam's Razor on this one.

quote:

Originally posted by 46and2:
The negative spin regarding Kyle is disgusting, though completely unsurprising.

And yeah, I stopped reading that article at "police admirer" and only caught the word "rampage" when I glanced down on my way to scroll past that Pravda hit piece.

Yes Bendable, cancel everything blm is involved with. By their own admission, they are racists and as such should be banned permanently.

Kyle Rittenhouse is thought to be member of the Kenosha Guard, a militia group.

Kyle Rittenhouse, charged in Kenosha protest homicides, considered himself militia

"Kyle Rittenhouse, the 17-year-old charged with shooting three people — two of them fatally — during a Kenosha protest Tuesday night, considered himself a militia member trying to protect life and property, according to videos, interviews and social media posts.

Video recorded in the hours before the shooting shows Rittenhouse hanging out with older armed men who say they're protecting a car lot. Rittenhouse, of Antioch, Ill., also did a video interview with the Daily Caller in front of a boarded up building.

'People are getting injured and our job is to protect this business,' Rittenhouse says in the clip. "And my job also is to protect people. If someone is hurt, I’m running into harm’s way. That’s why I have my rifle; I’ve gotta' protect myself, obviously. But I also have my med kit."

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If more adults in Kenosha came out to protect their town from violent, lawless commie anarchists, perhaps kids don't have to.

That's right. The same people telling us not to take any action, and to hide under the table and wait to be saved from ourselves are still at it.

+/- 20% of Civil War soldiers were younger than 18. The youngest US soldier in WWII was 12.

Some people would rather talk the talk, while others are willing to walk.

Read elsewhere that GoFundMe is not allowing anyone to setup a legal defense fund for the guy. But accounts are already set for the ones shot.

quote:

Originally posted by a1abdj:

quote:

If more adults in Kenosha came out to protect their town from violent, lawless commie anarchists, perhaps kids don't have to.

That's right. The same people telling us not to take any action, and to hide under the table and wait to be saved from ourselves are still at it.

+/- 20% of Civil War soldiers were younger than 18. The youngest US soldier in WWII was 12.

Some people would rather talk the talk, while others are willing to walk.

My maternal grandfather lied about his age and enlisted to fight in WWII at the age of 16.

looking at several videos, as Kyle was initially running
- someone hit him in the head from behind
- I think someone pushed him from behind and caused him to fall
- a large man kicked at his head
- he got hit w a skateboard and that attacker may have tried to grab the rifle
- then Grosskreutz is there w a pistol

The media is going to have a field day with the militia angle.