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Unless you're knowledgeable of the area or, know of someone to visit, spend as little time as possible. As others who are locals have posted, you spend AS LITTLE time around Pike's Place, Pioneer Square and Capitol Hill as possible. If you must, if your wife is insistent, you go in the morning, there's a good chance most of the tweekers are still passed-out. Grab a coffee, maybe breakfast around Pike's but, that's it. If you're looking for dinner, take an Uber and go elsewhere; go to Ballard to The Walrus and Carpenter. You get harassed, robbed of your luggage or, even assaulted, there's very good chance...nobody will be there to help you. You will not get much sympathy from city govt other than pointing you to a link to post your complaint. Many of these areas are fully deteriorated, the police are woefully under-staffed and as we've seen over the last several years, they're not supported. You try to 'defend yourself' the city govt will work overtime to paint you as the instigator. | |||
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I lived in Yelm and Puyallup from 1998-2003 worked in residential remodeling, mostly in the Seattle metro. Back then most of Seattle was just like any city at the time avoid certain areas and you were fine.I have friends still there they tell me it is now best to avoid most areas. It is easier to tell you where to go then to tell you what areas to avoid. Probably best just to avoid it all. Take a driving tour of little Mogadishu film it and get out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ A 'Veteran' -- whether active duty, discharged, retired, or reserve -- is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and including his life.' That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country today, who no longer understand that fact. Author unknown | |||
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https://www.washingtonpost.com...et-ward-8-dc-future/ D.C. Council member fears for the future of Ward 8’s only grocery store Inside, the Giant on Alabama Avenue in Ward 8 was abuzz with shoppers loading up on produce, diapers and snacks for the weekend. But outside, the mood was a bit more anxious, as shoppers wandered over to Trayon White Sr.’s pop-up resource fair to hear the Ward 8 D.C. Council member deliver what sounded like a dire plea to save the store. He had just had a meeting with Giant’s regional leadership, and had come away feeling a need to sound the alarm. The Giant on Alabama Avenue is the only major grocery store in the entire ward, serving more than 85,000 people, and White had the sense its future could be at risk. The management reported an uptick in shoplifting and crime at the Ward 8 location. The managers had, according to White, spent hundreds of thousands on security upgrades and yet, White said, were losing hundreds of thousands of dollars per month because of theft. They didn’t say they were planning on closing the store. But still, White was worried, and now so were some of the residents who relied on it. It’s not entirely clear just how rocky things are for Giant. The store declined to provide financial information to The Washington Post about the impact of shoplifting, but in a statement, made an assurance that it does not have any “current plans” to shut down. “However, we need to be able to run our stores safely and profitably,” read the statement, sent by spokesperson Felis Andrade. “The reality is that theft and violence at this store is significant, and getting worse, not better. As a result, it is becoming increasingly more difficult to operate under these conditions.” Giant’s leadership began going public with broad concerns about theft and crime in news reports earlier this year. It wasn’t just about the Ward 8 location, and it wasn’t just Giant. Retailers across the country have been exiting large urban centers, citing problems with increased organized retail crime as well as lower foot traffic and inflation-related issues. | |||
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Then, maybe he should stop making excuses for the rampant crime in his district and meet with police and prosecutors to see about arresting and locking up for a long time these thugs wh have been emboldened by his inaction.  | |||
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If we have an overnight there (Seattle), I stay pretty close to the hotel. The Captain with whom I was flying and I ventured out about 8 or 10 months ago on one of our overnights. The PURE EVIL in the air was palpable. I felt like the entire area just wanted anarchy so they could do as they please with ZERO consequence. It's no better than many cities in third-world countries I've seen in my travels. I don't know that "we" will EVER get this country back intact. Best case scenario is that it just split with half the country being The United Conservative States of America and the other half being The Communist America Socialist Republic. "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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Wasn't there a big push years ago to get retail into these impoverished areas? Seems like the current results show why there wasn't any major retail in the areas to begin with. ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
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Clearly, it is racism at its worst for D.C. residents to have to take public transportation in order to be able to loot and shoplift. | |||
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Well, when all the private vehicles in the 'hood are busy doing drive-bys, your options start to become limited. | |||
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'Stay Home': Feds Tell San Francisco Workers To Telecommute Due To Crime Wave https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...mmute-due-crime-wave Crime is so bad near San Francisco's US Department of Health and Human Services federal building that officials have advised hundreds of employees to work remotely for the foreseeable future. Citing public safety concerns outside the Nancy Pelosi Federal Building on Seventh Street - which houses several federal agencies including the HHS, the Department of Labor, the Department of Transportation and Nancy Pelosi's office - officials issued the stay-home recommendation in an Aug. 4 memo to regional leaders. "In light of the conditions at the (Federal Building) we recommend employees … maximize the use of telework for the foreseeable future," according to a copy of the memo by HHS Assistant Secretary for Administration Cheryl R. Campbell, and obtained by the San Francisco Chronicle, which notes that the area surrounding the building is home to 'one of the city's most brazen open-air drug markets.' "This recommendation should be extended to all Region IX employees, including those not currently utilizing telework flexibilities," the memo continues, referring to the federal government's zone governing California and other Western states. The memo came on the same day that, according to Axios, President Biden’s White House chief of staff called for more federal employees to return to their offices after years of remote work due to the COVID-19 pandemic. It was not immediately clear whether other tenants in the building had issued similar directives. Officials with Pelosi’s office and the Department of Labor said they have been working closely with local and federal law enforcement to ensure safety for their staffers, but they have not advised employees to work from home. The building has long been a locus of some of the city’s most intractable problems. -SF Chronicle According to the report, dozens of drug dealers routinely post up on, next to, or across the street from the building, where they operate in shifts as users smoke, snort or shoot up drugs - particularly on the property's concrete benches, where drug users regularly pass out. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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Good. We're getting to a point where only people like that imbecile and liar London Breed (what a genuinely stupid fucking name) will be able to cling to the lies and propaganda, and real action will be taken to halt and reverse this disaster. If not- well, they will be truly and irrevocably screwed and we'll enjoy the show.  | |||
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"You know what woke means. It means that you are a loser. Everything woke. Everything woke. It's true. Everything woke turns to shit. O.K." - PDJT, 8/21/21 Video on yootoob. __________ "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotomy." | |||
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So much for casual chat around the water cooler. | |||
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So now they can just use TikTok instead. | |||
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If DiFi steps down before her term is up, mark my words that Newsom will appoint Breed to fill the spot and it will groom her to run for the full term. The other possibilities - Newsom said he'd appoint a black woman - are Barbara Lee or Karen Bass. Lee is already old and Bass just won LA mayor. | |||
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Last night the wife told me about one of her clients who lives out on the western side of San Francisco, they were talking about the city, when we lived there in the late 80's early 90's, the reports of crime in the city, problems etc. He said don't believe all the reports, the crime is only in the financial section, downtown, that nobody ever went there anyway, that the rest of CA is fine and the rest of the city is great with zero problems..... With that mentality of the residents in the city they don't see the political climate there as the problem and they'll keep going down the same path. When we lived there you saw a few panhandlers, problem people just like any major city, and the bulk of the issues were contained in the Tenderloin district, now it's allowed to go anywhere and the financial area, which includes tourist areas like Union Square are infested with problems. People like this truly believe it's not a big issue and it's being overblown in the conservative media.. A large developer is pausing $1.2 billion dollar tower project downtown because it needs a financial partner and more tenants to sign up, something that isn't happening in San Francisco at this time as vacancy rates on commercial property is hitting a new high in San Francisco. Link And Salesforce canceled a lease for 300,000 sq ft of office space downtown. The normal reason given is "remote work", but the underlying reason is cost per sq foot and crime. Good employees don't want to step over needles, condoms, passed out transients, hookers, piles of turds or puddles of piss. Link | |||
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Likely B.S. They said the same about Portland. That it was only a few square blocks downtown. TOTALLY FALSE. I was in Portland YESTERDAY and it's more accurate to say that there are only small portions where the crime isn't happening. I was in several portions of Portland yesterday including downtown, 82nd, Lombard, North Portland and the West Hills. The West hills where the rich people live was the only crime-free area I saw. I'd say the worst was in the Lloyd district, ironically just a block from that federal building at 11th and Lloyd. The number of tents and garbage is simply amazing. Boarded up buildings everywhere. Many businesses have moved to the 'Burbs. Oh, even woke company REI is moving out of Portland. Hell, Portland Soy Boys buying bikes is their target market, and they can't stay. Did I feel unsafe there? Yes, I did. But not from the druggies or normal criminals who carjack you etc. I felt unsafe because they stopped traffic enforcement in an effort to provide equity. So people drive like hell there. Running red lights, speeding, unsafe lane changes. The data backs up my fear. Traffic deaths are at some all time high in Portland right now. I forget the exact numbers, but a lot of people die from vehicle accidents there now. So yes, I felt unsafe from that standpoint. I would not go there at night, nor would I ride any public transportation --- I'm not that stupid . | |||
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Places where this level of devolution has taken place would seem to be a perfect environment for a different type of predator. Too bad Paul Kersey can't operate in today's everything-is-on-camera environment. Perhaps the San Fran thieves will themselves disable some cams, and hasten their own demise. | |||
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Perhaps, the point is that the people that Live in the city, which this man has for 20+ years still believe the chaos, crime, debauchery, drugs that is killing off retail businesses and forcing companies to accept remote work as the norm is killing downtown and they don't think its a problem, therefore they aren't going to vote to change anything, thus confirming that we'll be there with Para, watching the show | |||
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This kind of willful ignorance is exactly why these asshats continue to vote the way they do. It’s both sad and laughable that the head-in-the-sand demeanor the “client” exhibits is such a widespread mental illness. It won’t change until they are the victim of a violent crime themselves…and maybe not even then. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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He's an ostrich. I still have plenty of family and friends living there, and your friend has to be willfully ignorant to say such. Not every neighbored resembles the Tenderloin or Union Sq, however talk to any merchant, shop keeper, business owner that deals with the public and they're having to deal with theft and confrontational behavior on a daily basis. Do they have any Asian friends? Lots of Asian seniors are looking to get out or, huddling together due to all the assaults against them. This is bully behavior given a pass by the gov, by a warped segment of society...and people are grasping for excuses.  You are correct, the riff-raff, largely stayed to the shitty areas of the city: Tenderloin, areas around Civic Center, Potrero and the further out areas like Bayview. Today, that's all spilled over into all the other neighborhoods, including the outlaying residential areas like Richmond, Sunset, West Portal where violent crime, robbery and mob activity just didn't happen. Much of the crime in these areas are done by juveniles, many are driving-in from the East Bay, these aren't crimes of poverty but predation. | |||
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