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Originally posted by wishfull thinker:

Sad to say I agree with you. I came here on purpose, worked my whole civilian career here, and If you can love a place that is how I felt about it.

Now the financial-legal center of the city is a waste land. About 10 blocks out all is pretty close to normal (the ferry from my little island paradise only lands you with one route out of Dodge, and once your past the homeless camps except for being empty of people it isn't burned yet.

The libs I've listened to have a single mantra, Once orange man is indicted everything is going to be groovy.

Driving, talking, just looking at Seattle is what it must be like to be in a really bad 70's horror movie.

Your post made me chuckle. I worked in downtown Seattle for thirty years and also commuted by ferry from Bainbridge Island. Your island? We left twenty years ago but I can tell you downtown Seattle was rotting from the inside even back then. It is a beautiful place but you just can't ignore that cancer. They are reaping what they have sowed many years ago.

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I can tell you downtown Seattle was rotting from the inside even back then. It is a beautiful place but you just can't ignore that cancer. They are reaping what they have sowed many years ago.

Former Pac NW resident (30+ years) here, I will say that the above statement is 100% correct!

The financial reality of their decisions is going to hit them in the face like a speeding brick wall.

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Originally posted by braillediver:
The financial reality of their decisions is going to hit them in the face like a speeding brick wall.

Wonder if they will feel entitled to a federal bail out when that happens? (sarcasm alert)

I've been listening to radio commentary on this move from the Seattle city council for the last week, and I don't even know what to think. It's so blindingly stupid that it's actually difficult to process. I used to say they wanted to destroy Seattle, but meant it mostly in an "I can't believe these idiots" hyperbolic way. Now I see that they actually do want to destroy Seattle, and everything they can get power over.

For years, I've been complaining about the way they treat the homeless. These people are addicts, and mentally ill. They are already an enormous cost to the taxpayers, and for the money that gets spent on them, there can be a better outcome for all. They need to be rounded up, shipped off to a max security inpatient rehab/mental institution where they'll spend up to a year getting totally clean and sober and then carefully and honestly assessed for reintegration in society. If they make the cut, I see value in helping them get jobs and set up in sober living homes. Frequent random drug testing and further treatment for relapse with a three strikes, you go away from society for a very long time, be that prison or a mental institution. Those that are mentally too far gone from the get-go need to become wards of the state and live in a loony bin. Sorry, it's what's best for society.

Instead, they let them live in squalor on the streets, legalizing all the destructive behaviors that come with active addiction and putting it all on display for everyone to see, then tout it as some sort of moral victory. These fucking leftists don't care about people, they use people. Addicts are owned by the left. Addicts want to drug and drink and be left alone to do so, and if they can vote, they'll vote for anyone that lets them do so. I'm guessing the plan is, when the glorious socialist revolution comes and they get the utopia they wanted, after they eradicate the right and the useful idiots on the left, they'll simply round up all the homeless and they'll end up in mass graves somewhere for "public health and fairness of resource allocating." I can see no other endgame to just letting people shit in the streets and rob and steal and whatever else to feed their addictions. It surely isn't for their dignity. There's nothing dignified in living that way, and I really don't think that addicts want to - they have no choice, they're addicted.

There's a reason seattle is an ever expanding shithole. Just keep spending money you don't have, undermining laws that are there to create a safe community and encouraging the worst aspects of people. You'll end up with a place no reasonable person wants to be in or raise their families in.

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Seattle City Council hears proposal to expand drug injection sites

"Would you support letting heroin users inject at places where they go to receive social services?"

https://komonews.com/news/loca...drug-injection-sites

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For years, I've been complaining about the way they treat the homeless. These people are addicts, and mentally ill.

While this is true it's equally important to understand that this is a lifestyle more than it is a condition to many. The more they are enabled to continue the lifestyle the better they like it but without any enabling at all many would still choose this lifestyle. For many of these people it is weak mindedness and laziness that keeps them where they are.

There are a plethora of social programs out there that will help these people out of the condition they are in and eventually get them in a job and self sustaining lifestyle. But first you have to want that.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
It's so blindingly stupid that it's actually difficult to process.

As I obsessively read the news and my twitter feed all day long, this statement describes the current state of affairs perfectly.

Everything is duplicitous and stupid.

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Originally posted by Orive 8:
Former Pac NW resident (30+ years) here, I will say that the above statement is 100% correct!

Grunge had to come from somewhere, and mere heroin wasn't going to do it alone.

Philly City Council Strips Cops Of Rubber Bullets, Tear Gas After Dozens Wounded In Street Violence

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...ozens-wounded-street

Philadelphia City Council approved legislation, 14-3 vote, that prohibits law enforcement officers from using "less-lethal munitions," such as rubber bullets, tear gas, and pepper spray on demonstrators.

The vote comes days after social unrest was sparked in the City of Brotherly Love - over the police shooting of Walter Wallace Jr., and days before the Nov. 03 presidential elections. The legislation is expected to be signed momentarily by Democratic Mayor Jim Kenney, who is trying to appease local constituents/demonstrators.

Councilmember Helen Gym, the bill's prime sponsor, said, "in banning the police use of less-lethal munitions in response to demonstrations, we are answering the calls of our constituents."

Gym continued: "This is a moment where repairing trust between our residents, public officials, and police are essential. Residential neighborhoods are not warzones. Demonstrators are not enemy combatants. This is a first step in working with our communities to build a new model for public safety that is driven by their needs and their vision for the future."

While most councilmembers support the bill, three councilmembers, including Republican Councilmembers David Oh and Brian J. O'Neill, along with Democrat Bobby Henon, voted against it. Their opposition stemmed from what they said would be the "chilling effects" of police officers not having the right tools to enforce public safety.

Philadelphia Mayor's Office released an update Thursday of the overall situation in the metro area. At least 11 ATMs were blown up across town, 57 police officers injured, and over 212 felony or misdemeanors arrests.

This is another example of pandering urban Democrats, placing their political interest above police officers' health and safety and the community they are supposed to be protecting.

Also, suppose officers, barred from carrying "less-lethal munitions," what happens when they're forced into a situation where they have no alternative in firing their service weapon?

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Also, suppose officers, barred from carrying "less-lethal munitions," what happens when they're forced into a situation where they have no alternative in firing their service weapon?

Appears that "More lethal" is the approved method - have at it!

Seattle has been lost for years. Over a decade really. I don't live or work in the City limits or King County for that matter. I cant believe more folks don't vote with their feet and move out of the city of Seattle so their tax dollars aren't supporting Crazy Town.

Honestly though, it doesn't get much better in the other counties north or south of King county. The entire west side is a piece of work. In my case, I cant leave yet for a variety of reasons but I don't have to live in King County so there is that..

By the way, I'm sure Portland and Seattle will be full on riot centers Tuesday night. Frankly, if it doesn't start tonight though Monday I'd be amazed. I'm sure the National Guard in both states have been called up.

Should be an interesting next 4 days. I'm going to Costco to get their Microwave Popcorn as it's pretty good and should come in handy over the next few nights..

You can be assured that if the DEM's win the big DEM cities will be bailed out by the tax payers through out the country.
I don't think that even with a Biden win the rioting will stop,it will intensify because no one in power will stop it. The rioting is not about Biden.
I also think that Biden getting elected is not the end goal. Get him in, then get him out so Harris can become President.
If the Dem's gain control of the Presidency, the house, and the Senate the Republicans will never get power again.

I agree with your conclusion that riots will continue.

A DEM Administration will have ZERO interest in confronting these antifa assholes.

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Originally posted by armored:. . . If the Dem's gain control of the Presidency, the house, and the Senate the Republicans will never get power again.

Venezuela here we come.

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Originally posted by Yanert98:
I agree with your conclusion that riots will continue.

A DEM Administration will have ZERO interest in confronting these antifa assholes.

What if Soros and his ilk are largely responsible for keeping them going?

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Originally posted by synthplayer:
You guys sound beaten. I see a red wave a’comin’!

The mainstream media still dominates so people see it and are disheartened.

Between the YUGE rallies and lack of harris signs even here in commie colorado there is a red wave a’comin’!

MAGA!!

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Philly City Council Strips Cops Of Rubber Bullets, Tear Gas After Dozens Wounded In Street Violence

All part of the plan, and just days before the election. Cops will be open season from all directions- the street trash will be emboldened to attack them and their own leadership is poised to attack them when the inevitable justifiable shootings occur.

If polls don’t mean anything, then neither do signs for some of the same reasons. But I agree that the signs for Trump far outnumber those for Biden here in the small area of central Colorado I’m familiar with, including in a town that has always voted Democrat since the mining days of the nineteenth century. According to a friend who lives in Fort Collins, the signs there run about 50/50. And as that’s a leftist college town where Trump signs run the risk of being stolen, that percentage is remarkable.