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Political Cynic
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we don't need to split the country up

we need to get rid of dirtbag(s)



Maybe I'm a bad guy for thinking it, but when I saw that they were starting fires the other day I had an idea. Why not simply march those causing these troubles into the very flames they started?


you're not bad for thinking that

it would certainly be justice, something we're not getting much of these days
 
Posts: 53949 | Location: Tucson Arizona | Registered: January 16, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Lighten up and laugh
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I'm originally from that general area (Lebanon) & my sisters are still there. The influx of immigrant trash that has poured in from/through NY City has made it a shithole in many areas.


Wow. It's been years since I've been there, but that is shocking.
 
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Wasn't expecting that combination of photos, now I have to clean the Diet Dr Pepper off my screen.....
 
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Floyd’s protests weren’t even vaguely justifiable. He was a thug under the influence of illegal CDS, actively resisting arrest, and fighting to escape from his predicament. He died of drug induced excited delirium, not any deadly act committed by the cop.


Well, I would say the situations are different. If the idiots still believe the narrative that Floyd was choked by the police officer, then they would have been somewhat justified to demonstrate and protest (but NOT to riot, loot, assault, or commit arson). I'll admit, the Floyd footage looked really bad before I read the autopsy report about his REAL cause of death.

Here, there is no justification whatsoever. The perp CLEARLY had a knife, and clearly needed shot. They've stopped pretending to have a moral justification for their acts. Now, ANY black person shot by police results in mass rioting. They don't even pretend to have a moral justification for it.

Of course, the one-bicep boy in Kenosha was holding a Glock in his ruined arm, but the media still presents him as a 'suffering victim' worthy of our sympathy, instead of THE TRUTH - somebody demonstrating hostile intent with a deadly weapon, justifying the use of deadly force against him. . .



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Floyd’s protests weren’t even vaguely justifiable. He was a thug under the influence of illegal CDS, actively resisting arrest, and fighting to escape from his predicament. He died of drug induced excited delirium, not any deadly act committed by the cop.


Well, I would say the situations are different. If the idiots still believe the narrative that Floyd was choked by the police officer, then they would have been somewhat justified to demonstrate and protest (but NOT to riot, loot, assault, or commit arson). I'll admit, the Floyd footage looked really bad before I read the autopsy report about his REAL cause of death.

Here, there is no justification whatsoever. The perp CLEARLY had a knife, and clearly needed shot. They've stopped pretending to have a moral justification for their acts. Now, ANY black person shot by police results in mass rioting. They don't even pretend to have a moral justification for it.

Of course, the one-bicep boy in Kenosha was holding a Glock in his ruined arm, but the media still presents him as a 'suffering victim' worthy of our sympathy, instead of THE TRUTH - somebody demonstrating hostile intent with a deadly weapon, justifying the use of deadly force against him. . .



But none, NONE of this shit is about the truth. It's about spinning the perception of a video to suit "their" needs.
Believed by a bunch of mouth breathers with a severe lack of impulse control, and not disciplined as children, and no proper education.


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Floyd’s protests weren’t even vaguely justifiable.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this point. Floyd was restrained. In cuffs. On the ground. It was hardly necessary to kneel on his neck for up to eight minutes. Completely unlike Ricardo Munoz blowing through a doorway wielding a knife.

This is where it all falls apart. Neither side can see the other side's point. At all. As each side hardens its position, the other side hardens theirs.

I don't know if it'll all ultimately devolve into civil war, but, if it does it won't be all one side that's at fault.



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STOW IT


 
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Although most of the arrestees were local, note that one of them is from Mercersburg. Like a quarter of the way across the state. Give or take, it's over a 100 mile drive and like 2 hours via any route from Mercersburg to Lancaster.

I suppose the shitheel could have already been in Lancaster...but, if not, let that sink in: some fuck gets righteously deadified in Lancaster, and some twit decides to hop the car and drive 2 hours to protest in a city that's not their own to protest immediately after learning the news.


Some of the blm fucksticks are local assholes. Those blm fuckers were in Manheim three times this summer. A few local wokie commie fucks but most of them were not from here which suggests much of the dogshit got bussed in from other points. I would not be surprised if some of the agitators were again transported into the city from other places.
 
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Imagine how effective BLM could be if they came out and denounced immediately and firmly the assassination attempt, the celebration of it, and the rioting as a result of the obviously justified shooting of the knife guy in PA.



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This Lancaster, PA shooting: I just clicked on "View Full Coverage" of it in Google News. There are multiple headlines that say "Protests Erupt...," including by Fox News. This is ridiculous. Protests don't erupt--riots do.



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I just want everyone here know, you're not alone in how you feel. There's no need to describe it, if evenit could be described in a precise way. I'm feeling it, and so is just about everyone else who loves this country and who believes that law and order is inseparable from a civilized society. You want something to be done about this utter madness. You want to do something about it. You're not alone.

Stay strong. Hold your temper. Remain civil. It's coming.
 
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How obvious does it have to get? We need to split this country up already. When you don't want cops to be armed and stop riots, it's time we go our separate ways.

Nope, we just need to crush those folks. November 3rd we need to not only re-elect President Trump, but also hand him a strong majority in the house and senate. Then back him up when he fires up the steamroller for these cretins.
 
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Originally posted by gearhounds:
Floyd’s protests weren’t even vaguely justifiable.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this point. Floyd was restrained. In cuffs. On the ground. It was hardly necessary to kneel on his neck for up to eight minutes. Completely unlike Ricardo Munoz blowing through a doorway wielding a knife.

This is where it all falls apart. Neither side can see the other side's point. At all. As each side hardens its position, the other side hardens theirs.

I don't know if it'll all ultimately devolve into civil war, but, if it does it won't be all one side that's at fault.

The difference I’d point out is that the officers intent was not to choke or damage Floyd; it was to secure him and keep him from thrashing around (ironically, to keep him from injuring himself or others). Short of beating senseless or sedating him, nothing else they were likely to try was going to work. If they had stuffed him in the cruiser and shut the doors, his death would have been ruled negligence in providing care for him. The actions of the officer were, as I understand it, within policy with the department so there was no intent. Floyd was in the car at one point and was resisting so violently that he had to be removed. The reality here is that the officers will escape criminal liability; civil liability will be another story. If they were in fact deemed to be in policy, the department will take the hit, but in any case, their careers are effectively over.




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https://thefederalist.com/2020...tage-for-revolution/

part of a long article:

What the left has accomplished so far is just the beginning. They have unleashed violence and mayhem across America with Antifa and Black Lives Matter paramilitary shock troops destroying cities. Republicans with a distaste for Trump, such as Mitt Romney, continue to willfully ignore what the Democrats are orchestrating by outrageously pretending it is the president, not the marauding mobs on the streets, who is trying to incite a race war.

Democratic mayors and governors are working overtime to maximize their constituents’ pain and suffering by keeping small businesses shut down, churches closed, and sports leagues canceled. All of these cascading events are a means to an end.

Democrats Are Prepping for Revolution
 
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Wait, what?
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In my opinion, this is backfiring on the left and the bill will come due on Election Day. Anyone with even the slightest bit of cerebral activity sees what is going on; this includes a large number of middle of the road democrats that while they might dislike Trump along party lines, recognize that what their party is engaged in is toxic. The far leftist trash wouldn’t be voting for Trump in any case. I think that not only will our president sweep the electoral, this time around he’ll win the popular vote as well. I’m not the least bit fooled by the staged polls touting Joe and the Ho as being in the lead. Not for a second.




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gearhounds is correct, all this violence is pushing Dem voters away, and the timing is perfect. I hope they keep it up until Nov. 4th.


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Floyd’s protests weren’t even vaguely justifiable.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this point. Floyd was restrained. In cuffs. On the ground. It was hardly necessary to kneel on his neck for up to eight minutes. Completely unlike Ricardo Munoz blowing through a doorway wielding a knife.

This is where it all falls apart. Neither side can see the other side's point. At all. As each side hardens its position, the other side hardens theirs.

I don't know if it'll all ultimately devolve into civil war, but, if it does it won't be all one side that's at fault.

I think there is more to be learned regarding Floyd.
What do we know about the officers training for dealing with suspected drug overdose and excited delirium?
Within the video’s and the report they indicated they thought George Floyd had “excited delirium” and that was their stated reason for holding him in that stable position with the knee on the neck.



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I speak jive.
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Full Stop: there will never be justification for kneeling on a man's neck for 8min and 34sec like he did.

That policy, first and foremost, killed George Floyd, and it needs to end, yesterday and for forever.

That marxists and chaos seeking shitstains have hijacked an otherwise legitimate beef is a shame, but it's here now so we're dealing with it, but don't conflate the two or justify appallingly bad policies.

George Floyd was murdered by the system, at the very least. Live with it. It will be forever true and sad.

Don't let others cloud that reality.

Now let's get back to hating the volient troublemakers who themselves have nearly zero to do with Floyd.

The troublemakers want to provoke us, clearly, especially before the election is done and settled.
 
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Shall Not Be Infringed
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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
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Originally posted by gearhounds:
Floyd’s protests weren’t even vaguely justifiable.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this point. Floyd was restrained. In cuffs. On the ground. It was hardly necessary to kneel on his neck for up to eight minutes. Completely unlike Ricardo Munoz blowing through a doorway wielding a knife.

This is where it all falls apart. Neither side can see the other side's point. At all. As each side hardens its position, the other side hardens theirs.

I don't know if it'll all ultimately devolve into civil war, but, if it does it won't be all one side that's at fault.

I'm not really sure what side you're on, but if it 'ultimately devolves into civil war', I know my side will bear NO Responsibility whatsoever! Roll Eyes


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Full Stop: there will never be justification for kneeling on a man's neck for 8min and 34sec like he did.

That policy, first and foremost, killed George Floyd, and it needs to end, yesterday and for forever.

That marxists and chaos seeking shitstains have hijacked an otherwise legitimate beef is a shame, but it's here now so we're dealing with it, but don't conflate the two or justify appallingly bad policies.

George Floyd was murdered by the system, at the very least. Live with it. It will be forever true and sad.

Don't let others cloud that reality.

Now let's get back to hating the volient troublemakers who themselves have nearly zero to do with Floyd.

The troublemakers want to provoke us, clearly, especially before the election is done and settled.

Re-Start: That IS Utter Bull-Shit Right There....You obviously haven't been paying attention! Roll Eyes


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