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What Gulags??? Are you kidding? We will never have Gulags in this country. Be serious.

This is a silly thread... but...
Never say never. Sometimes the political climate can change drastically. I don't think the average Russian (in 1917) saw what was coming.

All the old white guys... no, wait a minute!

The first will be Bernie's supporters who think they will get something for their efforts.


Like Hitler and the brownshirts, those that put him in office will be the first to the ovens.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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What Gulags??? Are you kidding? We will never have Gulags in this country. Be serious.

This is a silly thread... but...
Never say never. Sometimes the political climate can change drastically. I don't think the average Russian (in 1917) saw what was coming.

In 1917, revolution was on the horizon, frustration with the monarchy and talk of socialism was all the rage in the coffee houses, beer halls and barracks throughout Cntl & E.Europe; it was a true split amongst have's and have nots. We're nowhere near that kind of revolution. If anything we're closer to what we saw in the Spanish Civil War, a very messy, social schism that not only split families but also saw the military divided. Historically, militaries usually are aligned with each other, not so in 1936.

Times, places, and circumstances all vary widely, but one of the things that has struck me time and again in reading about the many historical events that interest me is how often people were taken completely by surprise by major life- and society-changing developments that few anticipated. Right now I’m reading Black Wave by Kim Ghattas that documents how profoundly—and how quickly—life changed in country after country in the Middle East starting 40 some years ago. There are many similarities to the forces affecting our country to what led to the upheavals there.

Do I expect that we will see detention camps or similarly repressive measures here, at least in my remaining lifetime? No.
Do I believe such a thing would be impossible here? No.
All such things require is for enough people, and the right people, to approve of such things for them to happen. Anywhere.
And all we have to do is look around to see vast numbers of people who would support such a thing. Right here. Right now.

An example for me that could not be more local or obvious is my county’s leaders’ response to the proposal to make us a “sanctuary” against the “red flag” law and its egregious assault on the concept of due process. Even though much support for that measure was expressed here and it has happened elsewhere in the state, when the final vote was taken, the commissioners’ position was, “It’s the law; we must obey it.” As has been pointed out by others, Anne Frank was sheltered by people who were breaking the law; she was killed by people who were obeying the law.

This was the typical Bernie supporter last weekend.

A New Hampshire man accused of slapping a 15-year-old Trump supporter on the day of the state’s primary election day has been arrested, Windham police said.

Patrick Bradley, 34, slapped the teen after he left a polling place at Windham High School around 6:15 p.m. Tuesday, police said in a statement.

Apparently he's been a loser since grade school according to local reports.

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Apparently he's been a loser since grade school according to local reports.

Just like his idol, Bernie.

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Originally posted by chellim1:
This is a silly thread...

So proclaimed and affirmed on this day.

The revolution has no use for revolutionaries once it's over. They'll be the first to go.

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Originally posted by bobtheelf:
The revolution has no use for revolutionaries once it's over. They'll be the first to go.

I remember a cartoon from the French Revolution, It had Robespierre the last one up the guillotine.

There'll be a mysterious virus that threatens the US and folks will be "quarantined" for everyone's "safety".

With a bit of luck history will repeat itself and there will be a "Night of the Long Knives" first and they will consume a bunch of their own. I love it when a good plan comes together!

Gulag ala Soviet style? Nah, not within the next several decades.

I think what you will see is a continuation and extension of what we have already seen. Forty FBI agents decked out in assault gear in a dawn raid on a feeble old man and his disabled wife over a tweet the government didn’t like. FBI files on political opponents found in the residence of the White House with no consequences. The IRS used to target groups opposed to government rule. Government officials caught breaking the law with impunity and suffering no consequences. These types of things appear to be occurring more and more frequently and will likely continue unless something drastic happens and you see some bureaucrats perp walked into some long prison sentences.

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Originally posted by chellim1:
This is a silly thread... but...
Never say never. Sometimes the political climate can change drastically. I don't think the average Russian (in 1917) saw what was coming.

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Originally posted by Sigfreund:
Times, places, and circumstances all vary widely, but one of the things that has struck me time and again in reading about the many historical events that interest me is how often people were taken completely by surprise by major life- and society-changing developments that few anticipated.

Years ago I worked with an engineer who in 1981 was in is mid 20s with a wife, and young child living in Poland. He said one morning when he went to walk the dog the Soviets had were putting up fencing and pens at the local park. He left within the hour, wife, kid, and one suitcase. They lived in a refugee camp for 6 months and eventually went to Canada. He said everyone was talking about it, but most didn't think it would really happen, until one morning it did. Had some stories.

I never thought I'd see Idiocracy become reality, but...

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I never thought I'd see Idiocracy become reality, but...

But now we see an idjit like Bernie having throngs of supporters

One of the things to think about how thing like this happen

Most people did not see it coming
most people were in denial that it was happening
They thought it could not happen to them

I told my brother one day: "They (leftys/dims/progs) won't get it until they're living in a gulag"

Brother: "They still won't get it. They'll just blame it on the republicans"

This dream or sentiment never dies. Back in the early eighties, I had a subordinate in our department, a true child of the ‘60’s/79’s. His totally serious line in any political or cultural discussions was that me/we would be the first to go when the revolution came.......

If the people who produce in the economy are first to go, who will be left to support the Left ?

Field Marshal Elizabeth Warren has proposed setting up a government commission to determine who is publishing "lies" during political campaigns. What constitutes a "lie" will be determined by her government commission. Anyone who publishes a "lie" will be jailed. For example, if you say that having more armed citizens results in less crime, this "lie" (determined by her commission) will result in a prison sentence. So we do have a serious political candidate who plans on setting up Gulags for her political enemies. Here is the link: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/2...ormation-online.html