What is it about a V8 that makes everyone get a hard on?

Why not a V10 or V12?

Or an Inline 36 cylinder? Or V5?

It's an arbitrary number.

The typical semi-truck has 6 cylinders.

Toyota engineers appear to value durability and reliability in their engine designs and are slow to adopt new technology. If they are putting a turbo 6 into a truck more than a decade after Ford has been doing it, then I'm fairly certain this engine will be as bulletproof as anything else they put out.

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Originally posted by Aeteocles:
What is it about a V8 that makes everyone get a hard on?

You can't be serious.

Dang. Coulda had a v8

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Originally posted by sigspecops:
That photo looks like its from a Tacoma. It even says Tacoma on the dash.

You are correct. I grabbed the wrong link.
Here is the standard screen. There aren’t many links to the standard screen yet. Everyone is focusing on all the tech.
https://www.motortrend.com/new...a1-ac5f-f3fc7a25767a

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Originally posted by Aeteocles:
What is it about a V8 that makes everyone get a hard on?

Why not a V10 or V12?

Or an Inline 36 cylinder? Or V5?

It's an arbitrary number.

The typical semi-truck has 6 cylinders.

Toyota engineers appear to value durability and reliability in their engine designs and are slow to adopt new technology. If they are putting a turbo 6 into a truck more than a decade after Ford has been doing it, then I'm fairly certain this engine will be as bulletproof as anything else they put out.

The answer is SIMPLICITY and far from arbitrary. When it comes to the power needed for a 1/2 ton pickup truck the V8 has been standard for a long time for a reason.
You need to add 2 turbos to a V6 to be able to create the power needed to do what a 1/2 ton truck is expected to do by most folks.

Turbo motors are great when they are working but you have added 2 very very expensive parts that do wear out over time.
You’ve also added an intercooler system.
Not sure if the turbos used are oil or water cooled but you have extended either of those systems by adding the turbos.

If it were not for the governments EPA requirements you would not be seeing V6TTs in these trucks. When it comes to real world use you don’t see the gas mileage claimed (I have owned 2 Ecoboost motors but 4 and 6 cylinder variants and did not get close to the estimated mpg).

Then their is the exhaust sound argument. V6s sound like complete and utter garbage when exhaust is opened up. A nice low throat that folks have come to know and love is not possible.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by Aeteocles:
What is it about a V8 that makes everyone get a hard on?

You can't be serious.

No, it is a legitimately posed question. I'd like to hear different people's opinion on why the V8 is the engine to pine after. I, personally, think it's just years of conditioning to think the V8 is just better than 6 cylinders but that few people can actually articulate why V8's *in general* are better than a flat 6 or V12 or some other configuration.

There isn't anything about 8 cylinders arranged in a V that inherently makes it a superior engine to some other engine configuration.

HP and Torque number "sweet spots" change rapidly. A Tacoma's V6 puts out similar power to the last generation Tundra V8, both without turbo. Guys that were perfectly happy with 250ish HP from a V8 now turn their noses up at a V6 that puts out the same power.

The new Tundra puts out N amount of power while attempting to meet some other design criteria like fuel economy, size packaging, or a certain power curve. People complain that it's "not a V8". Well fuck, if we're gonna complain, then why not wish for a fat diesel engine out of this generation with some insane torque number? Why does it *have* to be a *V8*. Why not wish for a V10? Or a flat 6?

In the motorcycling world, people haven't conditioned themselves to "expect" one engine configuration to be superior to another. V-twins, inline 4, and V4s all have their fans, and often one person can be a fan of each for various reasons.

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
Dang. Coulda had a v8

Sure coulda!

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Originally posted by P250UA5:

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Originally posted by BB61:
I worry about the long- term reliability of a turbo on a V6 pulling a trailer in the Rocky Mountains. I know they claim the hybrid motor will reach maximum torque at around 2400 RPM but I still wonder. I'm going to wait and see how it and the new Ford 7.3 do and then purchase one or the other around the start of 2023 - giving then each a year or two to settle in.

My mom's been pulling a horse trailer with sleeping quarters with a 2011 EcoBoost F150 since new. Trouble free.

Hope the new Tundra V6TT does well too.

^^^^
How heavy a load does she pull and what type of roads? When I pull, I regularly pull through high mountain passes with high grades. Thx

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Originally posted by Black92LX:

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Originally posted by sigspecops:
That photo looks like its from a Tacoma. It even says Tacoma on the dash.

You are correct. I grabbed the wrong link.
Here is the standard screen. There aren’t many links to the standard screen yet. Everyone is focusing on all the tech.
https://www.motortrend.com/new...a1-ac5f-f3fc7a25767a

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Originally posted by Aeteocles:
What is it about a V8 that makes everyone get a hard on?

Why not a V10 or V12?

Or an Inline 36 cylinder? Or V5?

It's an arbitrary number.

The typical semi-truck has 6 cylinders.

Toyota engineers appear to value durability and reliability in their engine designs and are slow to adopt new technology. If they are putting a turbo 6 into a truck more than a decade after Ford has been doing it, then I'm fairly certain this engine will be as bulletproof as anything else they put out.

The answer is SIMPLICITY and far from arbitrary. When it comes to the power needed for a 1/2 ton pickup truck the V8 has been standard for a long time for a reason.
You need to add 2 turbos to a V6 to be able to create the power needed to do what a 1/2 ton truck is expected to do by most folks.

Turbo motors are great when they are working but you have added 2 very very expensive parts that do wear out over time.
You’ve also added an intercooler system.
Not sure if the turbos used are oil or water cooled but you have extended either of those systems by adding the turbos.

If it were not for the governments EPA requirements you would not be seeing V6TTs in these trucks. When it comes to real world use you don’t see the gas mileage claimed (I have owned 2 Ecoboost motors but 4 and 6 cylinder variants and did not get close to the estimated mpg).

Then their is the exhaust sound argument. V6s sound like complete and utter garbage when exhaust is opened up. A nice low throat that folks have come to know and love is not possible.

There is no replacement for displacement…but if you don’t subscribe to that little axiom, you can always hope that Toyota might pipe in a V8 engine sound through the stereo speakers like ford does with their raptor. Now THAT’S super duper turbo speed power !

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Originally posted by BB61:

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Originally posted by P250UA5:
My mom's been pulling a horse trailer with sleeping quarters with a 2011 EcoBoost F150 since new. Trouble free.

Hope the new Tundra V6TT does well too.

^^^^
How heavy a load does she pull and what type of roads? When I pull, I regularly pull through high mountain passes with high grades. Thx

Loaded 1 or 2 horse trailer, with water on board.
A lot, local, in the Vegas area. Some up to Utah & to my brother's in CO.
Some of the longer trips, she takes her SRW PSD F350.

I've been watching the new Tundra teasers for months and besides getting pissed off at all the nonsense did not like what I was seeing from Toyota on the new Tundra.
The dash/ huge display is a huge turn off as well as some of features.

I was offered exactly what I paid for my Tacoma 2 years ago by the dealer I bought it from and they had a '21 Tundra on the lot exactly like what I was wanting.




I have to say I really like this truck! (Quite a bit more than the Tacoma)

I have known quite a few people who own/owned Tundras. None of them have said they didn't like the truck with the exception of a few who said they wish the mileage was better. But it's a truck so you have to be realistic.

Personally I've never had a need to own a truck even though I've worked construction.

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Originally posted by Nframe:
I was offered exactly what I paid for my Tacoma 2 years ago by the dealer I bought it from and they had a '21 Tundra on the lot exactly like what I was wanting.

That is kind of a hard offer to turn down.

How many miles did you put on the past 2 years on the Tacoma?

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Originally posted by Edmond:
I have known quite a few people who own/owned Tundras. None of them have said they didn't like the truck with the exception of a few who said they wish the mileage was better. But it's a truck so you have to be realistic.

Personally I've never had a need to own a truck even though I've worked construction.

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Originally posted by Nframe:
I was offered exactly what I paid for my Tacoma 2 years ago by the dealer I bought it from and they had a '21 Tundra on the lot exactly like what I was wanting.

That is kind of a hard offer to turn down.

How many miles did you put on the past 2 years on the Tacoma?

The Tacoma had almost 17,000 on it. Lot of driving was cut back in '20.
As its going now the Tundra will probably get 8-10,000 per year also.

I dont like it. Dont like any of the kid shit in the cab. Its simply too busy of a driving environment. More buttons than a space shuttle. And nope to all the angles everywhere. I would never invest in another 6 banger either. That chain link grill is awful. Toyota never got beyond the 5.7 when they should have. No diesel. The little 4.6 or 4.7 was/is a fine little power plant for the Tacoma and Four Runner line. The old Sequoia and Tundras are still wheeling along fine with those engines. The new GMC and Silverado are better looking exterior wise. Saw a new dually Silverado last week and its cab equals a F650 Ford. Really had to take a second look. The new Tundra looks like strictly a transportation toy. Loaded with kid shit. I hope they fail on this one. Because Toyota can do better.

Congrats Nframe. What are the specifics on your Tundra? 5.7 4wd crew max? Yeah, over a Tacoma. Night vs day. You did good. I love my Tundra. If I could talk my wife into it I would trade in my 2010 for a 2021 Crew max 4wd 5.7. Same as my 2010