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Thanks - is there a recommended way for the shop to troubleshoot this so that they actually find the cause?
Fill it up, dunk it in a tub of water, look for a thin stream of bubbles. That's the only way of which I'm aware.
Doesn't always work. Sometimes the tire needs to "flex" to have the leak.
I know. But he asked how troubleshooting was done. That's how it's done.



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We had a bead leak. Would go from 38 to 27 psi in about 3 days and then stay there. The shop dismounted the tire, cleaned the rim and remounted. No problem since.

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Posts: 45629 | Location: Pennsyltucky | Registered: December 05, 2001Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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The shop replaced the valve stem core (looks like a little pin); filled the tire to spec. I watched it carefully for 2 weeks, drove it around a bit as well.

For about 12 days, the tire held pressure. I thought all was good. Then, between day 12 and day 14, it lost 4psi (about 10% of the cold tire pressure).

Sigh. I wonder if they will remove the tire and put something on - just to test if it's the tire or the wheel. Is it the tire? The tire side of the bead? The rim side of the bead? The valve stem?

I'm now looking for a used rim so I can try the tire on it. I'm at a loss. Never had this type of problem before.




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Every time you put a pressure gauge on it you lose a bit of air. Maybe you need the whole valve stem replaced and/or the rim cleaned up.


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I was monitoring using TPMS, not pressure gauge.

Yea, I suggested that and they sounded like they took off the tire and inspected. But may be need to take another closer look. Need to somehow start eliminating sources and narrow down - tire, rim or valve.




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You can always swap tires between a non-leaking wheel and the leaker. That’ll either condemn or exonerate the tire.
 
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You can always swap tires between a non-leaking wheel and the leaker. That’ll either condemn or exonerate the tire.

Good idea. Maybe I'll suggest that.




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We remove the tire from the rim and visually inspect the inside of the tire for a puncture. Then we clean the rim and apply a bead sealer before reassembling. You’d be surprised how often there’s a puncture that doesn’t show up in the tank.


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I had a very slow leak due to corrosion. Tire shop DA’d the inner rims all was fixed, corrosion, never thought of it.
 
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I had 2 leaks following new tires and TPMS change from Costco. Spare tire leaked completely within a day, the other is always a few pounds lower than the rest whenever I check the pressures. From the tech who fixed it said whoever mounted the new TPMS, somehow didn't properly seat the seals.
 
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I can't tell where you live, but sometimes temperature drops will cause the wheels to contract just a bit and they will leak. First time the temp went down to single digits this year, all 3 cars here showed at least one low tire. As has been mentioned, overtime the wheels corrode and leak.
 
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Evaluating options still. I think this wheel was originally the spare that sat under the vehicle since new (let's say 15 years; I think it had the original tire on it).

If I find a used wheel (craigslist and/or auto dismantler), is it generally okay to buy? Or are the condition of these wheels generally problematic? I have no idea how to check if the condition is good or not.

I think a new wheel from the dealer is about $800. Would a used wheel around $500-600 be good? Or too risky - just buy new from dealer?




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Clean and reseal yours first before you go shopping. $20-25 and I bet your problem is solved. Wish you were close, I’d fix it for you.


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My truck had a slow leak. Fill to 35psi, couple of days later, down about 5psi. Replaced the valve core, no Bueno. Soapy water spray, no Bueno. Tire shop, submerged in water, no leak seen. Good kud dismounted the tire from the rim, didn't see anything. Used his hand on the indide and found a brad sticking the the tire. It was only leaking when in a certain position.





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Thanks guys. Next steps as suggested:

1. request and pay as needed to clean / remount. request tactile inspection as well (they have already down the leak tests and visual inspection).

2. swap tires w/ known good wheel.

3. purchase new wheel if needed.




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