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posted August 09, 2024 01:11 PM
I don't imagine anyone could've survived that. Not even Maverick was able to pull out of a stall like that. Tragic.

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posted August 09, 2024 01:20 PMHide Post
My wife was looking over my shoulder and said "Jeeze, seems like there's an awful lot of aviation accidents lately" so I pulled up the FlightAware site and showed her how many planes are in the air right now.

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posted August 09, 2024 01:20 PMHide Post
Is that a Dash-8?



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posted August 09, 2024 01:24 PMHide Post
^^ 'Was', perhaps...


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posted August 09, 2024 01:26 PMHide Post
Looks like an ATR 72.


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posted August 09, 2024 01:26 PMHide Post
Oh damn. Shit like that is what worries me when we fly. We are flying out tomorrow. I need something to calm my nerves now. Frown


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posted August 09, 2024 01:27 PMHide Post
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Originally posted by kkina:
Is that a Dash-8?


ATR 72-500 according to a Wikipedia entry on this crash.

Wikipedia article.




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Yup.



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posted August 09, 2024 01:34 PMHide Post
Our SF pilots will probably weigh in on this soon and correct me, but I thought that a flat spin like shown in the video is very difficult to recover from.


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posted August 09, 2024 01:34 PMHide Post
Another view.

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“The number of victims is still not clear.”

Try “Every one onboard.”





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posted August 09, 2024 01:44 PMHide Post
God bless those poor people! Frown




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posted August 09, 2024 01:48 PMHide Post
So, not being a pilot, what causes a plane to go into a flat spin like that? Loss of power?



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posted August 09, 2024 01:53 PMHide Post
^Also not a pilot, but my understanding is that multi-engine planes are susceptible to flat spins, and difficult to recover from. Perhaps an asymmetrical thrust situation?



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Mechanical failure and/or pilot error.

Real pilots will be along soon to give a more thorough nuanced answer, but it really boils down to this. Bad day for everybody involved.
 
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posted August 09, 2024 01:56 PMHide Post
I rather think the missing right elevator had something to do with it, but what do I know?


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posted August 09, 2024 01:57 PMHide Post
quote:
Originally posted by WaterburyBob:
So, not being a pilot, what causes a plane to go into a flat spin like that? Loss of power?


According to this, the center gravity of the aircraft shifts too far rearward. Perhaps a load in the cargo hold wasn't properly secured and shifted backwards?




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posted August 09, 2024 02:00 PMHide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Milliron:
I rather think the missing right elevator had something to do with it, but what do I know?

Where do you see that?



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quote:
Originally posted by WaterburyBob:
So, not being a pilot, what causes a plane to go into a flat spin like that? Loss of power?


According to this, the center gravity of the aircraft shifts too far rearward. Perhaps a load in the cargo hold wasn't properly secured and shifted backwards?

Thanks for that



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