Passenger plane in Brazil literally falls from the sky

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August 09, 2024, 01:11 PM

Balzé Halzé

Passenger plane in Brazil literally falls from the sky

I don't imagine anyone could've survived that. Not even Maverick was able to pull out of a stall like that. Tragic.

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August 09, 2024, 01:20 PM

PHPaul

My wife was looking over my shoulder and said "Jeeze, seems like there's an awful lot of aviation accidents lately" so I pulled up the FlightAware site and showed her how many planes are in the air right now.

Her: "You're shitting me!"

Me: "Nope. When you think of it, it's amazing there aren't MORE accidents."

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August 09, 2024, 01:26 PM

ador

Oh damn. Shit like that is what worries me when we fly. We are flying out tomorrow. I need something to calm my nerves now.

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August 09, 2024, 01:27 PM

DrDan

quote:
Originally posted by kkina:
Is that a Dash-8?

ATR 72-500 according to a Wikipedia entry on this crash.

Wikipedia article.

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August 09, 2024, 01:34 PM

YooperSigs

Our SF pilots will probably weigh in on this soon and correct me, but I thought that a flat spin like shown in the video is very difficult to recover from.

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August 09, 2024, 01:36 PM

Sig2340

“The number of victims is still not clear.”

Try “Every one onboard.”

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August 09, 2024, 01:48 PM

WaterburyBob

So, not being a pilot, what causes a plane to go into a flat spin like that? Loss of power?

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August 09, 2024, 01:53 PM

kkina

^Also not a pilot, but my understanding is that multi-engine planes are susceptible to flat spins, and difficult to recover from. Perhaps an asymmetrical thrust situation?

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August 09, 2024, 01:53 PM

1gkek

Mechanical failure and/or pilot error.

Real pilots will be along soon to give a more thorough nuanced answer, but it really boils down to this. Bad day for everybody involved.

August 09, 2024, 01:56 PM

Milliron

I rather think the missing right elevator had something to do with it, but what do I know?

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August 09, 2024, 01:57 PM

DrDan

quote:
Originally posted by WaterburyBob:
So, not being a pilot, what causes a plane to go into a flat spin like that? Loss of power?

According to this, the center gravity of the aircraft shifts too far rearward. Perhaps a load in the cargo hold wasn't properly secured and shifted backwards?

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August 09, 2024, 02:00 PM

kkina

quote:
Originally posted by Milliron:
I rather think the missing right elevator had something to do with it, but what do I know?

Where do you see that?

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August 09, 2024, 02:02 PM

WaterburyBob

quote:
Originally posted by DrDan:
quote:
Originally posted by WaterburyBob:
So, not being a pilot, what causes a plane to go into a flat spin like that? Loss of power?

According to this, the center gravity of the aircraft shifts too far rearward. Perhaps a load in the cargo hold wasn't properly secured and shifted backwards?

Thanks for that