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If I found a lamp with a genie that came out and gave me 3 wishes that I couldn’t use for myself my wishes would be for no broadcast sports for at least 5 years, for ALL news networks to disappear for at least 5 years and for the complete annihilation of all social media such as Facebook, Twitter, etc. forever. I seriously believe that the brainwashing from the media and the distractions from sports and social media are responsible for at least two thirds of all of our problems. Social media turns people into zombies. The media brainwashes people. And frankly broadcast sports has turned people’s priorities completely upside down and made millionaires out of the wrong people. If you could guarantee me that the highest paid athlete of any kind in the world made less than the lowest paid medical doctor of any kind in the world then I’d be willing to commute the sports ban to 3 years. I just think we spend far too much time watching sports instead of playing sports so they provide very little value to me. “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” | |||
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^^^^^^^ You broadened the scope. All I want to do is spend ten Saturday afternoons watching my alma mater play football. I will follow hockey once in awhile. The school I attended is a football independent and games are often scheduled ten years in advance. Some of the rivalries extend to the early twentieth century. I can and will adjust. I have lots of other hobbies and have no social media presence other than this forum. I played competitive sports throughout high school and happen to work in healthcare. I have never begrudged how much athletes make. The average NFL player lasts only four years and often has a lifetime of medical bills for TBI and various injuries. | |||
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All the more reason for the NFL to go away forever in my opinion. I get it, you like sports and that’s cool. Me personally, I’m not as big of a team sports person and the sports I do enjoy I like to play but don’t really care to watch. So obviously to me the loss of televised sports would be no big deal. I wouldn’t be so gleeful over it if it wasn’t for the fact that so many more people will watch a football game than will watch a presidential debate. The fact that professional sports has turned so many thugs into millionaires that think they now have some expertise in something that they know virtually nothing about has further soured me. I’m sorry but the proliferation of televised sports just reeks of “bread and circus” to me and I think they have caused more harm than good. “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” | |||
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Exactly. Too many distractions. ——————————————— The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1 | |||
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I second that motion. I am done with these overrated athletes. Nobody could love them more than themselves. Lets see how they feel about themselves if nobody watches their childishness. NRA Life Endowment member Tri-State Gun collectors Life Member | |||
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I think you're right about that. I bet college sports are cancelled this fall but not the NFL. I wish I could flip that. I think a year without the NFL would be a really good thing for the USA. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Many public universities will need increased gov't funding to cover the "loss" from the cutback in football. The gov'ts are already bleeding red from reduced tax collections and increased welfare/unemployment payments. The economic hit could be bigger and last longer than many anticipate. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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With big time college football the losses to local communities will be huge. Auburn and Tuscaloosa will fill the pain. Consider the vendors, restaurants etc. The amount of money that a home game brings to Ann Arbor is huge. Lots of folks will be hurt. I like college ball because you never know what is gonna happen with these kids. Even at top schools only a few make it to the NFL. A lot of the players know that, and they are playing for the fun of it. When I was in college, there was maybe one game televised nationally per week. You listened on the radio. College ball has certainly grown since then, but most of the programs are not minor leagues for pro ball. If you are interested look at the stats of how many players graduate. | |||
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I’m not a sports guy, just about never watch any. Our 11th grader does play H.S. football, sports meeting next week. I expect nothing close to a normal season, likely none at all. Right now I’d like to at least see some type of a regular school start, at least 3 days a week. Much is up to the local school district, makes it harder to coordinate a sports schedule. | |||
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It is unfortunate that something that was once wholesome and healthy has been twisted into a corrupt and vile machine. The corruption has filtered all the way down to youth sports. Travel teams, clubs, and "tournaments" are all money grabs of the worst sort. Kids no longer play for the joy of the game and some healthy competition but for the highest stakes...scholarships, promotion, and self importance. I love playing sports. (Now I really only play golf and tennis. Is shooting a sport? Probably not the way I do it.) I really enjoyed the team sports of my youth. I think there are tremendous opportunities for life lessons in sport but those lessons have taken a back seat to the glorification of individual achievement and the almighty dollar. I enjoy college football but that is only because I'm willing to turn a blind eye to the corruption in the system. Shame on me. Don't get me wrong. I've encouraged my children to play sports. I payed the money for club volleyball and lacrosse, gymnastics and dance, golf and tennis. I go to the games, matches, and recitals. I see the lunacy of certain parents and coaches. (Interestingly golf and tennis are the least expensive organized sports my children participate in.) I am not a bitter non-athlete or "has been". I don't try and live through my kids. My only frustration with my children in sports is if they aren't giving their best effort. I WANT sports to be what they started out as; wholesome entertainment with some life lessons. I don't see how we could return to the days before athletics was perverted into the corrupt and vile thing it is now. ____________________________ Yes, Para does appreciate humor. | |||
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You are correct, it is about the choices we make. I understand that a goodly number of NFL starters are bankrupt within a few years after they retire. They continue to live the high life even though they are no longer making the high money. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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Back to the actual OP rather than branching off to the evils of NFL and all sports.... Seems like that noose keeps tightening, with some conferences/schools starting to reveal attendance plans under consideration. My concern/prediction is that we start season on a normal-ish schedule with mostly in conference. We'll see one or two teams suddenly having to bench/isolate a bunch of players and pull the plug. I'd guess before mid-October at best. Bummer. On a positive note Deniseair is campaigning for fancy new recliners under the premise that our Auburn tickets won't be any good to get us into the games but that we'll be watching some from home. I love that lady and her rationalization of moving money from one bucket to another. You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02 | |||
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I personally was hoping for some type of football season, but anyone doing anything before the election will be shamed by the mob. | |||
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Our Governor in Mississippi did not make an interesting comment for those of us that enjoy sports. He said he would pay two hundred bucks to watch two Governors play ping pong. Sports has been a nice distraction for many of us. | |||
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In D1 football, the graduation rate was 48.9% in 2017 according to NCAA. ^^^^^^ The study found that the four teams competing in this year's College Football Playoff — Alabama, Clemson, Notre Dame and Oklahoma — all had "reasonable academic standing." Alabama's graduation rate was 84 percent, Clemson's 87 percent, Notre Dame's 95 percent and Oklahoma's 76 percent. | |||
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That's pathetic. If less than half graduate they are not student athletes. They are not really students. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Lets be honest, most of the top-tier football programs are an institutions unto themselves, they live in bubbles compared to the rest of the student body. The amount of support they have is obscene: they have separate food hall/cafeterias, separate gyms, health and medical staff devoted solely to them, academic assistance at all levels, councilors available, many have dorm/living areas separate from the student body, some go so far as having minders keeping tabs on the questionable players. While its encouraging to see some of the players actually getting degrees like business, economics, architecture, mathematics, chemistry and there's a good slice that are really good at managing their time... the reality is that most football programs are going to conflict with most scholastic programs. Football is going to win out, you're an athlete, playing a sport that we make money on, you will be preparing for that game or we pull that scholy. The dean of that department having issues with players, can either be flexible in their requirements or, the student will be transferring to a different major that's more accommodating to their athletic schedule. I enjoy college football, the history, the pageantry, the variety of plays, but the reality is there's a number programs operating at a level that far exceeds what's reasonable for the student and the benefits are solely to the university. I'll miss it but, life goes on, there's other interests outside of watching college ball. | |||
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Agreed, it's apples to oranges comparison. I would say in most D1 schools a real graduation rate would be somewhere 1/2 - 1/4 of what they post if the student was just part of the general student body and not a football player. | |||
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What's even more maddening, is the number of boosters and donors...who have ZERO affiliation to the school other than they pay their taxes to the state with the same name. These people have no degree, have taken maybe a semester of classes if that but, they buy-up all the paraphernalia: jerseys, hats, flags, carpets... as if they're an alumnus. I once went to Knoxville for a TN game, hanging out at the bar before game time, I ended up meeting a variety of people; nice folks, really fun to be around. Over half of the people going to the game, decked-out in TN team colors, were not graduates or, ever attendees of the university  The only connection they had was they were from TN and that was their team...good grief! I understand rooting for a team out of entertainment but, holy hell, these people had no life outside of this football team...it was like high school and all the associated stupidity, smh. Can only imagine what a place like Alabama, LSU, Oklahoma, Nebraska, Clemson, Michigan is like... | |||
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Or as we like to say, Auburn fans get their loyalty/spirit on campus as students. Alabama fans get theirs at Wal-Mart! You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02 | |||
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