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Para had mentioned it before a day or so ago but the rumor is that John Fetterman may end up leaving the Democrat party and switch to Independent or even Republican. I think the far left of the Democrat party which seems to be most of them now unfortunately are furious with him and plan to primary him in 2028.

I just saw this too so something is up for sure:

https://x.com/WayneTechSPFX/st.../1882111578549702682



 
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Even though his vote wasn’t needed it does make a statement about himself and, more importantly, the Democrat senators.



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I've always thought Fetterman looks like an evil professional wrestler.

If I recall, he had a stroke and there was much debate about his mental faculties. How has he been functioning lately, normal or Bidenly?


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Sane democrats can be some of the most powerful people in DC during Trumps second term... especially democrats in the House from districts Trump won. I would guess Fetterman is monitoring how democrats react going forward and would stay with the party if they move back to the center.
 
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Well, while he's still a Democrat, his actions/positions/statements seem to be rational for the most part. He 'almost' seems to be on our side when you compare him to many RINOS, such as Collins or Murkowsky, to name just a couple!


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I have to say John Fetterman just keeps surprising me.

He has been a strong supporter of Israel and seems to be one of the last Democrats left that has an ounce of common sense and decency.

I would not be surprised if they do what they did to Tulsi Gabbard to him. We see how that worked out.


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I must say I was skeptical about this guy at the outset, and figured he was on a quick trip into the crapper of history.

I don't care for his sartorial choices, but he generally seems more level-headed than anyone else across the aisle. Surprising, even to me.

It must make the dems nuts.



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Given the way the GDCs (including those on "our side") have shit all over this Republic, the Constitution and most importantly, We the People...

I really cannot get spun up on his decorum when it comes to dress.

And "coalition" is good, and I trust Trump to manage such with astute aplomb.

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It's my understanding his wife is hard, hard left so I'll keep my expectations low on a party switch until it happens. I guess it could explain the shorts if she wears the pants in the family.




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Not so fast



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Maybe his brain was damaged in a way that makes it difficult for him to lie, cheat, and steal.

Just not Democrap material anymore.
 
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Not so fast


He's got to last 4 more years. Of course he's not going to tip his hand right now


 
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Fetterman did an interview with Joe Rogan a month or so back. It's an interesting listen. He's not what I'd call a conservative, probably more of a blue-collar traditional Democrat. I definitely don't agree with him on everything, but he's not completely illogical and he's got the stones to speak his mind even when it goes against his party. I have to respect him for that. He still has some struggles related to the stroke, but he seems to be way more with it than Biden.

He seems like a dude that I'd be alright sitting down and having a conversation with, and I respect his honesty. If everybody in Washington were like that regardless of party, we'd be a lot better off. I'm not sure I'd want him as my elected representative, though, simply due to policy disagreements.
 
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He's got to last 4 more years. Of course he's not going to tip his hand right now

Exactly. Whatever he does, it's for re-election purposes. It would be far easier to run as a Democrat since he already has support. But if he thinks he will be primaried, and can't win, he'll switch. It's all about him and his chances.

The Pennsylvania Democrat senator told Semafor talk about a potential flip to the GOP is “amateur-hour s‑‑‑.”

“If they think, ‘Oh, it’s going to be like a Manchin or a Sinema play,’ that’s just not true, and that’s not going to happen,” Fetterman said to the outlet via reference to former Sens. Joe Manchin (W.Va.) and Kyrsten Sinema (Ariz.), who began their careers as Democrats but retired this year as Independents.



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We have a two party system, and as much as many of us dislike one of those parties, they aren't going away.

Since we are stuck with them, I'd much rather do business with a guy like Fetterman, who seems to be fundamentally sane, and possess some common sense, than the AOCs of the world.



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I'm amazed that he had strokes, became a vegetable, and now all of sudden he makes sense and looks like a moderate. Anyone else notice the change?


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Fetterman did an interview with Joe Rogan a month or so back. It's an interesting listen. He's not what I'd call a conservative, probably more of a blue-collar traditional Democrat. I definitely don't agree with him on everything, but he's not completely illogical and he's got the stones to speak his mind even when it goes against his party. I have to respect him for that. He still has some struggles related to the stroke, but he seems to be way more with it than Biden.

His views came across as a traditional Blue Dog Democrat, an endangered species and one which many of the far-left would like to eradicate from the party. One can only surmise that during his short time on the Hill and in the Senate chambers, has revealed to him a perspective that's adjusted his political outlook on his fellow party members and likely ostracized him from a variety of political cliques.
 
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I'm amazed that he had strokes, became a vegetable, and now all of sudden he makes sense and looks like a moderate. Anyone else notice the change?

It looks like it has been a gradual, continuous progression. When he was first elected, he could hardly speak and looked about as aware as Biden, and he had a very leftist stance.

As the fog has cleared he has become more articulate and moved toward the right (or center), which means the Dems will try to throw him off the bus at some point, just as they did with Tulsi Gabbard, Joe Lieberman, RFK Jr, etc. He will be primaried, unless he falls in line.


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Glad we got Hegseth confirmed. senate is back to full staff 53-47, but Rubio was 99-0 ? Did they add the JD or Rubio replacements today ?

Interesting about Fetterman. We'll see about his party but Fetterman has denied it. Would be nice to see him at least dress appropriately
 
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I have seen no reports that the confirmation vote has even been taken. Thune said it will be by the end of this week.
 
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