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I hope McCain gets the best cancer treatment with his Obamacare insurance. Oh wait...
 
Posts: 5369 | Location: Ypsilanti Township | Registered: January 20, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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The more I think about this, the angrier I get.



I get angrier by the hour as I think about what this con artist McCain did. I find my brow furrowing now every time I see his face or hear his name.


~Alan

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Posts: 31379 | Location: Elv. 7,000 feet, Utah | Registered: October 29, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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The more I think about this, the angrier I get.

This dumb ass showboat McCain may have doomed me, my kids and their kids to shitty healthcare for the rest of our lives.


Probably not.

First of all, no program these goons would devise, with all the industry, government, medical pressures, not to mention constituents inputs, was likely to result to be able to deliver terrific healthcare to everyone. There is no way to provide the kind of healthcare you describe to everyone, with all the trotters in the trough, plus government overhead, at anything like costs that people will accept, or be able to pay. Moreover, no government program of that magnitude has been successful at what it was supposed to do. Look at the War on Poverty! Any of them for that matter.

You aren't going to get it unless and until you and the rest of the people demand that government got out, maybe license doctors, etc, maybe regulate insurers for financial soundness, maybe, and virtually nothing more.

Moreover, passing this bill certainly did not "repeal and replace." At best it just gave a new can to kick down the road, some fodder for re-election campaigns, "we did our best but couldn't quite do all we wanted."

There are Health Savings accounts now, are there not? Why aren't those being sought?




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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The AZ people had the chance to get rid of the POS, and they blew it.


Sadly, I'm not sure they would vote against him now, dead or alive.
 
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The Manchurian Candidate.

I went numb when "our" party nominated him to run for President in 2008.

May God in his mercy forgive MCCain.


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You aren't going to get it unless and until you and the rest of the people demand that government got out, maybe license doctors, etc, maybe regulate insurers for financial soundness, maybe, and virtually nothing more.



I agree. Getting the government out is unlikely. This began in 1965 with the passage of MEDICARE.
Many are not aware that CMS, a huge federal agency not only sets fees but is now paying physicians with rudimentary metrics designed to meet some governmental standard. That issue is huge and is a reason why many doctors are throwing in the towel. It is not much different than a checklist, rather than good patient care. Those of you wonder why the physician now spends more time treating the computer, filling out forms for the electronic health record have the government to thank for it.
 
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He needs to pack his crap up and head back to AZ and sit in a rocking chair.

Hate that RINO POS.

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Proverbs 27:17 - As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.
 
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He needs to pack his crap up and head back to AZ and sit in a rocking chair.

Soon...very soon...


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Sticking it to Trump one last time. Fucking scum. Mad


Yeah, I think this was a "fuck you" to the President from McCain.
 
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Yeah, I think this was a "fuck you" to the President from McCain.


How about a fuck you from us to John McCain - Fuck you McStain.




Donald Trump is not a politician, he is a leader, politicians are a dime a dozen, leaders are priceless.
 
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May God in his mercy forgive MCCain.

No. May the justice of a righteous God be upon him.




God Bless and Protect our Beloved President, Donald John Trump.
 
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This comes as no surprise to me. He's done this before and he'll do it again given the chance.

RINO.
 
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Yeah, I think this was a "fuck you" to the President from McCain.


How about a fuck you from us to John McCain - Fuck you McStain.


I wonder if McCain knows how pissed we are at him? I think he does, and I don't think he cares.
 
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I wonder if McCain knows how pissed we are at him? I think he does, and I don't think he cares.

Why would he give a rat's rump? It isn't like he is going to be running for reelection.
 
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I wonder if McCain knows how pissed we are at him? I think he does, and I don't think he cares.


I'm sure he knows and I'd guess, in his mind, it validates his actions.




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JMc is a ruler not a representative. Given the same circumstances as Kim Un, he'd be just as tyrannical.



You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
 
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Customers May See Higher Prices, Fewer Options After Health Bill Collapse
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news...lapse-437239303.html

Their main concern now is that the Trump administration will stop paying crucial subsides called for in the law that help reduce costs like deductibles for people with low incomes. The subsidies, estimated at $7 billion a year, have been challenged by Republicans in court, and Trump has only guaranteed them through this month.

Does McCain really think the government can sustain the $7 billion per year in subsides.
 
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Yes, may God bless Jon Mc Cain and also tell him to retire immediately and to stick that thumb up his anal fissure.
 
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Still waiting for an answer. The AZ people had the chance to get rid of the POS, and they blew it.

During the last primary I made the joke I was voting against the people I would be voting for in November. Kelli Ward campaigned against McCain in the primary and I voted for her. The problem is she is an amateur politician having served in the state assembly. She doesn't have the right people running her communications and tries to do much of it herself. She says things that are true, but often mis-worded or ill-timed making it easy for the media to target her and people to dislike her.

McCain won the primary and the democrats put up a self admitted socialist to run against him. It really was picking the lesser of 2 evils in the general election.




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Still waiting for an answer. The AZ people had the chance to get rid of the POS, and they blew it.

During the last primary I made the joke I was voting against the people I would be voting for in November. Kelli Ward campaigned against McCain in the primary and I voted for her. The problem is she is an amateur politician having served in the state assembly. She doesn't have the right people running her communications and tries to do much of it herself. She says things that are true, but often mis-worded or ill-timed making it easy for the media to target her and people to dislike her.

McCain won the primary and the democrats put up a self admitted socialist to run against him. It really was picking the lesser of 2 evils in the general election.


As said earlier, the primaries are where the real fight is for conservatives nowadays.

I'm not going to sit out a general election. The sad fact is, when the choice comes down to a Republican and a democrat, I'm surely not voting for the democrat. And I'm not going to give him a de facto vote by not voting for the Republican. So yeah, if I were an Arizona resident, I would've voted for McCain too in the general...

And now after having said that, you all now have permission to shoot me dead with a Hi-Point.


~Alan

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Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan

 
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