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As predicted, the Kentucky governor "Lil" Andy Breshear is punch drunk with power. He announced Friday that he will send the state police to area churches and they will take down license plate numbers for those who attend services. A judge in liberal Louisville struck down the order because it was blatantly unConstitutional, but he vows to have the state police continue regardless......"if it saves one life"...... https://www.nbcnews.com/news/u...er-services-n1181716 At this point, no one is going to be surprised if he announces the creation of a "secret police force" to enforce his executive orders. | ||
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The bigger threat facing this country isn’t the virus or the Chinese. Its Democrats. The sooner people wake up the better. They are exploiting the virus problem to accelerate their agenda. True enemies of America - they’re already here and are slowly destroying it. | |||
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^^^ You ain't kidding | |||
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Recall the bastard.
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Would not the police sent to take down plates be trespassing on the churches property? Then by his direct order, the governor be guilty of multiple instances of trespassing? | |||
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Maybe they need to find Neidermeyer for the job. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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Geeze, man, what is it with governors using Good Friday to put down bad laws? God bless America. | |||
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Communists aren’t partial to religion, anyone’s. | |||
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Michigan also has a Godless tyrant Governor. She is doing everything she can to please the DNC so she has a chance to be the VP candidate. It doesn't matter how much the people of Michigan have to suffer at her hand as long as she looks good to the Godless Commies. Rod "Do not approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction." John Deacon, Author I asked myself if I was crazy, and we all said no. | |||
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Is there any mechanism for this in Kentucky? Unfortunately, this or any other legal remedy is going to take months, if not years. Does his authority extend to local police or sheriffs? I don't see how there could be enough state police to go around checking churches. | |||
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Would there not be legal ramifications for the State Police for disregarding a judges ruling? | |||
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There was a time in this country that a guy like that would be drug out of his house, tarred and feathered, and forced to issue an apology to the public. | |||
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No, impeachment is the only method of removal. Both Houses of the State Legislature are heavily Republican. The latest session of the General Assembly just ended, save for a veto override portion later this week. Special Sessions have to be called by the Governor, so that ain’t gonna happen. --------------------- DJT-45/47 MAGA !!!!! "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." — Mark Twain “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” — H. L. Mencken | |||
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They could certainly file a motion in the same court that issued the order to have him held in contempt of court as well as anyone who else who violates the judges order (including the state police officers). | |||
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Recall would not happen. There are massive groups online praising him, not just from Kentucky, but across the US - groups who get together to have 'Tea with Andy' to listen to his daily pressers. The suburban soccer moms lap this stuff up - "Please keep us safe Daddy!" “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Just a slight correction, the injunction was not against this order from the governor, it was against the mayor of Louisville who had ordered that no gatherings could take place. https://www.globenewswire.com/...rvice-on-Easter.html The governor is 'just' going to take down license plates and report them to the Gestapo...I mean 'Health officials', who will order the people into mandatory 14 day quarantines. There has been no orders stopping this from happening...Yet. I would be interested to know if it happened today. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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Welp...KY State Troopers carried out the orders. https://www.courier-journal.co...te-order/5127260002/ Kentucky police record license plates at in-person Easter church service HILLVIEW, Ky. — As Maryville Baptist Church moved forward with its in-person Easter service Sunday morning, Kentucky State Police troopers were recording the license plates and placing notices on the roughly 50 cars parked outside of the congregation. The action related to license plates came as a result of an order that Gov. Andy Beshear announced Friday as part of ongoing efforts to keep Kentuckians from further spreading COVID-19. Following Beshear's license plate order, which applies anyone who attends an in-person church service or any mass gathering, police will refer those motorists to local health departments, which will then order 14-day quarantines – although several attendees told The Courier Journal they have no intention of following the order. Sgt. Josh Lawson of KSP said most of the state’s 16 posts have responded to between two and five complaints about church services. But so they’ve found no violations of CDC guidelines and no in-person services, with Maryville apparently the exception. Most calls have been in reference to outdoor services, where people were in cars and not passing between cars. Those types of services “were specifically mentioned by the governor as being allowed,” he said. “We’re responding to those calls as we would any other calls for service. As of now, we have not found anyone to be in violation when we responded to those calls. They are following the proper guidelines,” he said. Maryville was the only place plates have been recorded and notices put on cars that he knew about. He couldn’t answer what exactly they will do with them, but noted the action was the directive of the governor. Troopers have used community connections to speak with pastors to advise that “they can worship while doing so safely and within proper guidelines.” Lawson said it’s been “very non-confrontational.” More than an hour before Maryville Baptist Church began worship, the Rev. Jack Roberts had to call for help to clean up piles of nails scattered at the entrances to the church parking lot. The nails appeared to have been dumped at the entrances to block cars from entering the church that is in the Bullitt County community of Hillview, just south of the Jefferson County line. Roberts had been determined to move forward with the 11 a.m. Easter service at Maryville Baptist Church despite repeated pleas from Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear to shift to virtual services and a March 19 executive order prohibiting faith-based mass gatherings amid the novel coronavirus pandemic. Earlier this week, the Baptist congregation also received a state-backed order from the Bullitt County Health Department to cease in-person gatherings "immediately." But the church has not backed down during this Holy Week, holding a Wednesday evening service that drew roughly 40 attendees. Beshear's order for police to record license plates has drawn criticism from numerous Republicans who represent Kentucky at the state and federal level, including Sen. Rand Paul and Rep. Thomas Massie as well as Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron. Roberts has said he is "not interested in trying to defy the government," but believes his church has a constitutional right to continue to hold worship services inside his church. "If you read the Constitution of the United States, if you read the constitution of the state of the Kentucky, they both say that (Beshear) is infringing on the church's rights," Roberts said earlier this week. On Sunday, Roberts said he would not encourage or discourage compliance with any quarantine orders. The pastor did cover the license plate on his own vehicle. Just after 10 a.m., when Sunday school was beginning, no law enforcement could be spotted outside of the church. Five or so cars were initially parked in the church's lot, with a few more lined up on the outskirts. Several vehicles had covered up their license plates. A KSP official at the church said officers recorded VIN numbers of cars that had their plates covered. Beshear has mentioned in recent weeks how numerous churches have held mass gatherings in defiance of his order that is aimed at limiting the spread of the COVID-19 virus. On the eve of Easter Sunday, Beshear said he knew of only seven mass gatherings planned for the weekend. "To our knowledge, 99.89% of all churches and all synagogues and all mosques in Kentucky have chosen to do the right thing," Beshear said during his Saturday briefing. "I'm just doing my best to save lives. And there aren't easy answers." The governor added that the state is not going to "padlock doors or arrest pastors." Recording license plate numbers, he said, is an effort to "say that if you’re going to make the decision to go to a mass gathering during this pandemic, it shouldn’t affect other people." In Louisville, Mayor Greg Fischer reiterated Saturday that he was "strongly suggesting" churches don't host in-person or drive-in services this Easter weekend. Fischer had said Friday that Louisville Metro Police officers would record the license plate numbers of those who attend church services and the local health department would use that information to contact attendees, should any later fall ill with COVID-19. The mayor pointed to photos published in The Courier Journal of a March 29 service at On Fire Christian Church, 5627 New Cut Road, that show some individuals within 6 feet of each other. Although Fischer did not issue an order banning drive-in services, one Louisville church sued the mayor and city on Friday, arguing Fischer's recommendations on drive-in religious services violated constitutional rights and their religious freedoms. U.S. District Judge Justin Walker, who was appointed to the Western District of Kentucky bench last year with Sen. Mitch McConnell's recommendation, sided with On Fire Christian Church in a Saturday ruling, calling Fischer's move overly broad and unconstitutional. "On Holy Thursday, an American mayor criminalized the communal celebration of Easter," Walker wrote in a temporary restraining order he issued, which bans the city from "enforcing; attempting to enforce; threatening to enforce; or otherwise requiring compliance with any prohibition on drive-in church services at On Fire." In response to Walker's order, Fischer repeated that hasn't directed law enforcement to shut down drive-in worship services. The mayor also said the city tried to present evidence to Walker in defense of its position but was unsuccessful. On Sunday morning, On Fire Christian Church pastor Chuck Salvo stood on a podium above 100 or so cars in the parking lot, starting the Easter morning service by singing “God Bless the U.S.A.” and waving the red, white and blue flag to a chorus of honks from churchgoers. Before getting into his resurrection sermon, Salvo said he recognized that government officials “are up against a tremendous challenge” and led the congregation in a prayer. He then recited the CDC guidelines for drive-in services. In Eastern Kentucky, Harlan County Judge-Executive Dan Mosley said Sunday morning that Kentucky State Police had met with pastors, several of whom opted for drive-in instead of in-person services. Mosley had said in a Facebook post on Saturday that he was aware of 10 churches in his county that were planning in-person Easter services. The Harlan County official noted how a church revival across the state in Hopkins County as well a church gathering in Pulaski County have led to outbreaks of COVID-19 cases. To the churches that were still planning in-person gatherings, Mosley said "just know you are putting your members in harm’s way unlike the hundreds of churches in our county that are doing it the right way and having virtual or drive-up services." “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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If you’ve read any of the praises from these “femboyband groupie girls”, they all want to have his children. Even has his own line of jewelry now (“Beshearings”). --------------------- DJT-45/47 MAGA !!!!! "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." — Mark Twain “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” — H. L. Mencken | |||
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I have a niece that posts stuff constantly that "Poppa Andy has spoken". She posted a rant two nights ago that stated that if think your Rights are being stolen, just delete me now" type stuff. I did so without fanfare. However, if you monitor the state AG's social media, there are more than many that hate him for the communist that he is. | |||
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Would be nice to recall both the Governor & AG ______________________________________________ Life is short. It’s shorter with the wrong gun… | |||
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