What the hell has been going on the last two days in Ukrainian Goverment ? The first best, most modern Defense Minister Zelensky could have is being replaced. A internal squabble between the Defense Minister and Commander of Ukraines Armed Forces, Sirski has led to a terrible decision by Zekensky. Trying to get my mind around this shit show. Minister Federov is a modern day brilliant young man who has built all of Ukraines recent gains against Russia. Is Zelensky affraid of competition ? Does he think an old soviet era leader like Sirski can actually finish this war with a win, useing old world tactics ? I am asking myself if Zelensky believes all the coming of help from the 90 billion EU loan and, more help on the way via license to build Patriot missles is going to get Ukraine a win ? What is this guy trying to do ? Its looking like some of the corrupt buddys are starting to swim around the pond of big money coming to help Ukraine. The Ukrainian people are protesting for reforms. Letting Federov go is a gigantic intentional fuck up by Zelensky. At this point in time, Trump and the EU should dangle the money and military aid like a carrot in front of Zelensky. Bring back Minister Federov. Replace Sirski and, any shenangins with the money and military aid, replace Zelensky. Win the fucking fight with what the world gives you or, the world will leave you high and dry. Something is smelling bad at the top in Ukraine.

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Originally posted by David Lee:
Its looking like some of the corrupt buddys are starting to swim around the pond of big money coming to help Ukraine.

They have been swimming around the big money since the beginning, that's why the war has lasted as long as it has. Federov made the mistake of actually starting to win the war, not line the pockets of Zelensky and his friends.

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Originally posted by David Lee:
Something is smelling bad at the top in Ukraine.

I'm glad some of you are starting to catch on.

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Originally posted by David Lee:
Trying to get my mind around this shit show. Its looking like some of the corrupt buddys are starting to swim around the pond of big money coming to help Ukraine.

Ding, Ding, Ding! We have a winner!
We have provided Ukraine with a TOTAL SHIT TON of cash with no accountability.
Did anyone think it was actually going where we intended it…like offensive/defense type stuff?

These fucking scam artists have seen the money flow in but nothing is going where it should have gone.
It’s been stolen by corrupt politicians - hard to imagine I’m sure - but we can get there with some obvious evidence.
Just compare them to DC politicians and the picture is quite clear.

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Originally posted by KMitch200:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by David Lee:... We have provided Ukraine with a TOTAL SHIT TON of cash...

Slight drift, but related. I am of the very strong opinion:
1) America should NEVER send any cash to other governments
2) If absolutely justifiable we can sell to them at cost on credit US made goods.

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Originally posted by KMitch200:
Did anyone think it was actually going where we intended it…like offensive/defense type stuff?

Whether we're the players or the cheerleaders, we don't win wars, we simply fund conflicts. There's too much money in it for the right people to make for it to be any other way.

"Twelve years of fairy tales": former commander-in-chief Zaluzhnyi says Ukraine will never join NATO

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/.../2026/08/03/8047090/

Valerii Zaluzhnyi, Ukraine's ambassador to the UK, has said he does not believe Ukraine will ever become a member of NATO and argued that the country should instead focus on developing other security alliances.

Source: Zaluzhnyi during a discussion on Euro-Atlantic integration at a meeting of ambassadors in Kyiv today, as reported by European Pravda

Details: Zaluzhnyi made his remarks during a discussion among senior diplomats on Euro-Atlantic integration. Although he had been asked to comment on Ukraine's participation in the Joint Expeditionary Force (JEF), he began by speaking about NATO.

Quote: "I know NATO very well. For about 12 years, I personally worked to ensure that we adopted NATO standards, and every year I listened to fairy tales that we were just about to join NATO. Unfortunately, we will never join!"

Details: Zaluzhnyi argued that one obstacle to Ukraine's NATO accession is that "it is impossible to join an organisation that is guided by World War II doctrines in light of the current capabilities of the Ukrainian Armed Forces".

The ambassador was also highly critical of NATO's overall capabilities, despite countries such as the UK and the US being members. "Most likely, NATO will remain in its current form and will spend another 12 years, just as Ukraine did, transitioning to the standards required to reach even half of the Russian Federation's level," he said.

However, Zaluzhnyi acknowledged that "Ukraine needs technologies that NATO countries currently have", including in the fields of anti-ballistic defence, space and so on.

Regarding future security guarantees for Ukraine, he argued that other alliances than NATO could prove more effective: "Ukraine will align itself with blocs and alliances that are likely to emerge. Most probably, this will be a European military security bloc."

Zaluzhnyi also believes membership of the JEF is an effective security mechanism. "The JEF has had command-and-control structures in place since 2015. It's true that they are still weak, they are not yet at the level we need," he said, expressing regret that Ukraine is not working towards joining the JEF.

It is worth noting that the JEF does not currently entail collective defence mechanisms or mutual defence obligations among its members.

Background:

Earlier, the 10 member states of the JEF signed a statement of intent to establish a multinational maritime force to act as a complement to NATO.
Ukraine has already joined the agreement on enhanced partnership with the JEF.

NATO is nothing more than a dumping ground for third world savages.