[QUOTE]Originally posted by parabellum:
It's kind of early in the day to be drinking, isn't it I don't drink Para. I guess to fit in here at this topic one needs to agree to the inhuman actions of putin. To exterminate a whole country and it's people from history. Ukraine is fighting for survival. Russia by contrast. The hell of it is Russia is damn bear out of fighting men and machinery. They just moved 6 huge Nork arty guns into Crimea. Those are some big guns. Ukraine is kicking russias ass hard with the drones. Russia can't build T90s fast enough. You know they are feeding injured old men into the front line to die. And look at who Russia attacks in Ukraine. Look who sir.

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Originally posted by David Lee:

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Originally posted by jljones:
A couple of easy questions for you-

How much of your money (not tax money) have you sent to support the war,

And;

Have you fought over there or are currently enlisted to go to the front lines and fight?

They are both easy questions and don’t take but a few words (likely only two maybe three) to answer.

No money sent JL and the only Americans involved are those former Vets who claim to be caught in kill mode and the only job they are good at.

So, you don’t trust Zelenskyy enough to send your money, and you are cool with another half million lives being extinguished as long as it’s not yours?

Zelenskyy has been given billions in our tax money and can’t account for most of it. But, you want Trump to keep feeding the pig “because Russia”?

How much money did your party send to NC after Asheville was decimated? I can tell you exactly how much money was earmarked to line Zelenskyy’s pocket in that time frame. He’s already been given enough money to win it several times over. But the point of our aid wasn’t about win or lose. It was about grift. Not another penny.

I don’t care who wins or loses at this point, I don’t want our nation debt borrowing one more red cent for Ukraine. They’re a lost cause, and it wasn’t our cause to begin with. You guys who hate Putin so much can go fight Russians, the Ukrainian foreign legion is accepting any warm body that’ll volunteer at this point.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by David Lee:
Zelenskyy said he would give up his position and there would be a new leader in Ukraine if anyone, mainly America would provide security for his country.

No, he said he would step down in exchange for membership in NATO. Now, just cool it. Enough.

Yes sir.

Russian President Vladimir Putin

Russian President Vladimir Putin recently (3/27/25) visited the Commander and Crew of the latest Russian nuclear submarine, the Arkhangelsk.

The Arkhangelsk is a Project 885M Yasen-M ship, the latest fourth-generation multipurpose nuclear-powered submarine capable of carrying any sea-launched missiles and effectively hitting targets both at sea and on land. The submarine was completed and delivered to the Russian Navy on December 27, 2024. “Its crew has recently completed its basic training and is now ready to carry out its duties at sea.”

President Putin’s full remarks are HERE.
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/76557

Here's a portion:

In this regard, I would like to state – first and foremost – that, in my view, the newly elected President of the United States sincerely wishes to end this conflict for a number of reasons – I will not list them now, as they are numerous. But in my opinion, this aspiration is genuine.

It is clear that the conflict I have just mentioned and briefly characterised in terms of recent developments, remains complex and requires thorough discussion and consideration.

We stand for resolving all these issues by peaceful means, as I have just stated, reinforcing the measures we have taken from the very beginning – first, second, and third.

Therefore, we advocate resolving these issues through peaceful means, but with the elimination of the root causes that have led to the current situation. We must undoubtedly ensure Russia’s security from the long-term historical perspective. Any step taken to achieve this objective will be welcomed by us, and we will work with any partners who strive towards this goal.

We are prepared to work with Europe as well, despite their inconsistent behaviour and constant attempts to lead us up the garden path. Nevertheless, we have grown accustomed to this. I trust we will avoid making mistakes rooted in excessive trust towards our so-called partners.

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It's clear that Putin does not trust Zelensky or Europe.

Factually, a civil war was ongoing in Ukraine for well over a decade. NATO exploited that civil war to create a U.S. proxy war against Russia. Zelenskyy is not negotiating for peace; he’s buying time against what Trump wants to do.

He’s buying time for the EU/UK and corrupt NATO interests to organize a separate funding mechanism for continuation of war. The UK/France have promised to provide the intel service. The EU/UK now need to organize the funding mechanisms. They are doing it currently.

A generally belligerent Volodymyr Zelensky, who will not accept any terms for negotiated peace (so far), continues playing the victim and saying Russia is violating terms needed for peace. NATO and the EU alliance continue telling Zelensky to keep fighting; Zelensky rejects anything that stops the fighting; NATO and the EU alliance continue demanding that President Trump support Zelensky. That’s the current cycle.

Putin knows the game, that’s why he is keeping up the offensive action.

At some point in this great game of ‘ceasefire’ pretense, President Trump is going to cut the gordian knot.

https://theconservativetreehou...r-putin/#more-270643

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Factually, a civil war was ongoing in Ukraine for well over a decade. NATO exploited that civil war to create a U.S. proxy war against Russia. Zelenskyy is not negotiating for peace; he’s buying time against what Trump wants to do.

He’s buying time for the EU/UK and corrupt NATO interests to organize a separate funding mechanism for continuation of war. The UK/France have promised to provide the intel service. The EU/UK now need to organize the funding mechanisms. They are doing it currently.

A generally belligerent Volodymyr Zelensky, who will not accept any terms for negotiated peace (so far), continues playing the victim and saying Russia is violating terms needed for peace. NATO and the EU alliance continue telling Zelensky to keep fighting; Zelensky rejects anything that stops the fighting; NATO and the EU alliance continue demanding that President Trump support Zelensky. That’s the current cycle.

Spot on analysis, everything that needs to be said about Z, he has no intention of stopping the conflict, it keeps him in power and access to all the funds he wants.

If he can hang on until the next election, and if we return to the D party he'll be flush with weapons and cash. Don't think for a minute that there isn't a bunch of people in the background that want this to happen, wars make people in power money.