Guns about half kilometer (+-) (up close and I hate you) Short/Visual missiles from "end of guns" to about 20 miles. Medium starts at end of visual and out to around 80 miles.
Long range out to 120 miles. (+)
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The interesting side note to this kerfuffle is that Canada and Portugal have been considering cancelling the F-35 contracts to opt for the French Rafale due to Trump's attitude towards Europe and Ukraine.
I'd bet that there'll be some change in tune soon enough. Go ahead and buy those Rafale. They're just as expensive as the F-35 and see how they'd fare against the Russian S-400/500.
Originally posted by konata88: I think it said something about firing air-air missiles at 160Km from each other - say 4min flight time? If so, that doesn't seem like it would be a very effective range.
Given a typical medium range missile (AIM-120) and an engagement range just insides it's operational envelope (160Km). At their published speed of Mach 4, it should be able to cover that in just under 2 mins...assuming they aren't flying toward each other
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“Donald Trump says India and Pakistan have agreed to a ceasefire just hours after both sides boasted of fresh military strikes.
The two nuclear-armed neighbours had also traded drone attacks and artillery fire after a gun massacre last month that India blames on Pakistan.
In a post on social media platform Truth Social, the US President wrote: 'After a long night of talks mediated by the United States, I am pleased to announce that India and Pakistan have agreed to a full and immediate ceasefire. …”
Originally posted by Pipe Smoker: “Donald Trump says India and Pakistan have agreed to a ceasefire just hours after both sides boasted of fresh military strikes.
The two nuclear-armed neighbours had also traded drone attacks and artillery fire after a gun massacre last month that India blames on Pakistan.
In a post on social media platform Truth Social, the US President wrote: 'After a long night of talks mediated by the United States, I am pleased to announce that India and Pakistan have agreed to a full and immediate ceasefire. …”
How dare he moderate peace and take away the opportunity to involve the US in another foreign conflict to allow profiteering by the military-industrial complex!
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Originally posted by 911Boss: How dare he moderate peace and take away the opportunity to involve the US in another foreign conflict to allow profiteering by the military-industrial complex!
There will be plenty of time for that with our imminent invasion of Canada and Greenland.
Breaking- In an emergency hearing, A US District court judge just issued an injunction against the Trump administrations peace plan between India and Pakistan. From the ruling, “ This administration has no authority to broker peace deals” and the warring countries were so ordered to resume hostilities.
"It's an incredible deal," said President Trump, making the announcement. "Not only did I stop a war between nuclear powers, I got eighteen months of free Geek Squad. Their tech support is pretty good, that's what people say, and they only wanted to give me twelve months. But I said no, without me you are all dead in a nuclear holocaust, I want eighteen months. And they caved. I knew they would."
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Originally posted by ss9961: Breaking- In an emergency hearing, A US District court judge just issued an injunction against the Trump administrations peace plan between India and Pakistan. From the ruling, “This administration has no authority to broker peace deals” and the warring countries were so ordered to resume hostilities.
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Originally posted by 220-9er: Considering the importance of this conflict between two nuclear powers to the world, the news media has been mostly quiet.
Trying to figure an angle when Biden can be given credit…
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I don't think the news "media" will come to anything for quite some time. There's just too much existing stupidity in the working ranks, and at least a generation of more stupid people in the pipeline to replace them, before a future generation grows up the old fashioned way.
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Google “India Pakistan”. Literally every headline goes out of its way not to recognize Trump and his team’s efforts in facilitating the cease fire.This message has been edited. Last edited by: gearhounds,
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As a follow-on to Spencer's post, here's an image of an article in the Times of India, an interview with an Austrian aerial warfare analyst:
If all this is true-I have seen no news about this anywhere but here so far--then India has achieved remarkable progress in their military capacity.
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