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Maybe so Cool


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I'll be the first to admit I didn't think so. But for the first time in a very long time I am cautiously optimistic. Well said Para, maybe so indeed.


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I had concerns about whether we could vote our way out of it. I figured PDJT would win, but I didn’t expect such a resounding mandate. I feel decidedly better about the sanity of the voting population.

I don’t like to count chickens before they’re hatched, but it sure looks like we may have done just exactly that, voted our way out of the mess we’re in. Here’s hoping that we can keep the pressure on, that President Trump gets the support he needs, and that he makes a desert out of the swamp!
 
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For a while, it seemed, we were in an awkward stage of too late to vote our way out but too early to shoot our way out. I'm glad it went to the voting side.
 
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Does a hobby horse have a hickory dick?




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Laura Trump and her team of observers and lawyers are the reason voting worked. Without that it would be soviet style ballot counting again.

I thought we would win, but I was prepared for a steal and the downward spiral that would accompany it. Musk was right, if we did not win this election it would be the last election.


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"the liberties of the American people were dependent upon the Ballot-box, the Jury-box, and the Cartridge-box, that without these no class of people could live and flourish in this country" - Frederick Douglass

All three boxes are still intact. Smile


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Does a hobby horse have a hickory dick?


Have not heard this phrase in a long long time.

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We've got a pretty damn good shot at it! The future looks bright! Cool


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I was cautiously optimistic during the campaign. Today I am ecstatic about getting the fuck out of the rut we're in. I like our chances!
 
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Yes we can. If the Republicans will come together and actually show results now that they will control most of the government. (Something they failed to do last time they had control)

I feel they will be rewarded in the midterms which will allow President Trump 4 years to straighten out this mess.

The American people have spoken and they want results.


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I’m trying to be optimistic that once they‘re in power they can get their shit together and actually accomplish what we elected them all to do. At least I know we’ll be better off the next four years than we would’ve been otherwise!


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Yes, sir. We sure can!

My wife has told me how she's noticed the mood in our community has improved. I've noticed the very same. The storm clouds have parted!
 
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Laura Trump and her team of observers and lawyers are the reason voting worked. Without that it would be soviet style ballot counting again.

I thought we would win, but I was prepared for a steal and the downward spiral that would accompany it. Musk was right, if we did not win this election it would be the last election.


It's Lara Trump but, yes, I agree. From her post election interviews, they had a plan to execute ballot integrity using a lot of volunteer awyers. They practiced during the primaries.

Another genius move by Donald Trump. Lara said she had to learn everything but, thankfully, she is a quick study. I heard DeSantis is considering appointing her to replace Marco Rubio. Good move on his part to get Trump's backing for 2028. That's going to be a crowded field.



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Relevant article:

The Revolution of 2024

https://brownstone.org/article...-revolution-of-2024/

People are out and about, smiling at each other. It’s been true since the morning after the election, the results of which defied every prediction. Who doesn’t like to see the smug elites who have ruled the world for five awful years taken down a peg?

More than that, there are hints of a return to sanity. Mainstream advertisers are suddenly returning to X, putting their economic interest above their tribalist loyalties. The editor of pro-lockdowns Scientific American, which had long blessed totalitarian measures as true science, has resigned.

The attempt to pillage InfoWars and give it to The Onion has been reversed by a federal judge. That might be a fluke or might not be: maybe the lawfare is dialing back too. The cabinet of the incoming administration is being filled by voices that were fully censored for years. Employees are reportedly packing their bags at the FDA and other agencies.

Mainstream news commentators are sputtering around with less bravado than they have shown in years. CNN is firing major personalities.

Trump is talking about abolishing the income tax and granting $10K in tax credits per homeschooled child, not to mention blowing up college accreditation systems, among other sweeping changes.

The American Bastille day is coming, not only freeing the political prisoners of January 6 but also many of the unjustly persecuted including Ross Ulbricht, Roger Ver, and Ian Freeman, among so many others. That will be a day of rejoicing.

Oh, and peace seems to have broken out in some contentious areas of the world, for now.

What is happening? This is not the usual transfer of the resident of the White House. This is starting to look like an actual transfer of power, not just from Biden to Trump but from the permanent government – ensconced in many sectors – that has been long in hiding to an entirely new form of government responsive to actual voters.

As it turns out, there was no late surge for Kamala Harris. All the polls were wrong, and the rest was media blather. What was correct were the betting odds on Polymarket, and only days later, the FBI raided the 26-year-old founder’s home and confiscated his phone and laptop.

There are still many millions of missing voters, people who supposedly showed up for Biden in 2020 but stayed home this time. Meanwhile, there has been a historic shift in all races, ethnicities, and regions, with even the possibility of flipping California from blue to red in the future.

After decades of academic slicing and dicing of the population according to ever more eccentric identity buckets involving race, ethnicity, gender, and sexual interest, along with countless thousands of studies documenting deep complexity over intersectionality, the driving force of the election was simple: class, and the few intellectuals and some wealthy entrepreneurs who understand that.

The division was not really left vs right. It was workers vs laptoppers, wage earners vs six-figure stay-at-homers, bottom half vs top 5 percent, people with actual skills vs weaponized resume wielders, and those with affection for old-world values vs those whose educations have beaten it out of them for purposes of career advancement.

The silent majority has never been so suddenly loud. It just so happened that the heavily privileged had come to inhabit easily identifiable sectors of American society and, in the end, had no choice but hitch the whole of the overclass wagon to the fortunes of a candidate like themselves (Kamala) but who was unable to pull off a compelling masquerade. Not even a parade of well-paid celebrity endorsements could save her from total rebuke at the polls.

Sylvester Stallone called Trump a second George Washington but another reference point might be Andrew Jackson. The overwhelming victory for Trump is on a scale not seen since 1828 when, four years after the presidency was stolen from Jackson, Old Hickory came back in a wild landslide and cleaned up Washington. Trump arrives in Washington with a mandate for the same, with 81% of the public demanding that the government shrink in size and power.

It has all happened so quickly. We are barely ten days into the realization of what just transpired and the entire lay of the land seems different, like a tectonic shift in politics, culture, mood, and possibilities. We are even seeing blunt and open talk about the horrendous Covid response that so utterly demoralized the country and the world, after years of silence on the topic. We have promised hearings coming, and court cases galore now on fast track.

The sudden coming together of three great sectors of anti-establishment fury – MAGA, MAHA, and DOGE – in the last two months of the election of 2024 is one for the ages. It provides the beginnings of an answer to the great question on our minds for decades: how precisely does an authentic revolution take root in an industrialized Western democracy? Are elections capable of delivering real results?

For now, the answer seems to be yes. That should thrill any responsible observer of social, cultural, economic, and political affairs. It means that the early architects of the American system were not wrong. The intolerable costs of political upheaval of ages past can be mitigated by planting power firmly in the hands of the people through the plebiscite. This was their view and their gamble. All the evidence of our time points to the wisdom of the idea.

In the darkest days of the last year of the first Trump presidency, the bureaucracy was riding high, in full revenge mode against an elected government it hated and sought to overthrow. The agencies were passing strange edicts that felt like laws but no one knew for sure. You are essential, you are not. You must stay home, unless you have an emergency. Your elective surgery needs to wait. The kids cannot go to school. That European vacation cannot happen. You can eat at a restaurant but only if you are six feet away from other patrons and you must put this China-made cloth on your mouth if you get up to go to the restroom.

The flurry of edicts was mind-boggling. It felt like martial law, because it was some form of exactly that. The best research points to the astonishing reality that this was never really a public-health response but a scheme by security and intelligence sectors to enact some kind of global color revolution, which is why the policies were so similar the world over. It was indeed an awesome display of power, one that invaded all our communities, homes, and families.

No one knows this better than Team Trump, even if there has been near silence on the topic for all these years. They have had time to put the pieces together and figure out what happened and why. And they carefully, and in seclusion worthy of a Cistercian monastery, plotted their return, leaving nothing to chance.

Meanwhile, the past two years have had the Covid insurrectionists quietly stepping away from the spotlight, while leaving as much of their newfound power in place: the censorship, the technology, the mandates, and the propaganda that all of this shock-and-awe was nothing more than “common sense health measures.” It was never tenable, and vast numbers have come to realize that something went very wrong, like a kind of evil settled over the world and burrowed itself within all institutions.

In an instant, the whole scheme seems to be crumbling. The incredible result is that the administration under which this calamity occurred is now coming back, which is probably the strangest irony of our times.

And yet, even though no one has yet been open about precisely what happened in the White House in March 2020 to cause Trump to greenlight the lockdowns, there is a widespread belief that it was never really his choice. It was some kind of coup – egged on even by his closest advisors and the VP – that he either could not stop or lacked the personnel to marshal effective resistance. Regardless, he has been forgiven because, implausibly, the next administration not only owned the worst of it but added even more on top of that, including the wicked combination of mask mandates, forced injections, and continued school closures.

The result has been a continuing economic crisis, one far worse than agencies admit, in addition to a health, education, and cultural crisis. Meanwhile, all those involved in causing this from behind the scenes have been rewarded with professorships, loving interviews in the mainstream media, and lavish security provisions to protect them from legions of what they suppose are angry workers and peasants.

Therefore, among many of the ruling class, the results of this election are certainly not welcome, and nor are many of the early appointments. They represent the coming together of MAGA, MAHA, and DOGE, the fulfillment of decades of cultivation of disparate groups of dissidents who had not previously realized their common interests and common enemies. It was the Covid era and the imposition of top-down rule that brought them all together.

It was like three groups wandering around in a giant maze who suddenly confront each other and then, realizing that they all shared the same predicament, figure the way out together. These new alliances have not only shattered right and left, as traditionally understood, but reshaped the structural basis of political activism for the duration. It turns out that medical freedom, food freedom, free speech, political freedom, and peace all go together. Who knew?

The incumbent world of academia, think tanks, and most media simply finds itself unprepared to deal with the new realities. They had hoped everyone would forget about the last five years as if it was just a thing that happened but is now over; everyone just needs to grapple with the great reset and learn to love our new lives of surveillance, propaganda, censorship, perpetual war, poison food, unaffordable everything, and endless injections of potions for our own health and well-being.

Well, times have changed. How much? Early signs point to a dramatic unfolding of revolutionary change over the coming months. Is believing this the triumph of hope over experience? Absolutely. Then again, no one believed five years ago that most people in the world would be locked in their homes and communities, stuck drinking and streaming movies until biotech could come up with a cure for a respiratory virus with a zoonotic reservoir. Then it did not work and made people more sick than ever.

That was nuts but it happened.

If that could happen, with predictable results, the response could be equally implausible and more much thrilling. What’s man made can be unmade by man, and something new built in its place.


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I heard DeSantis is considering appointing her to replace Marco Rubio. Good move on his part to get Trump's backing for 2028. That's going to be a crowded field.

I'm sure she's a fine gal and would likely do a fine job, but we don't need any more dynasties in this country...even when it's our side.

And Trump won't back Rubio in '28, unless JD really steps on his dick...which I doubt.


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I heard DeSantis is considering appointing her to replace Marco Rubio. Good move on his part to get Trump's backing for 2028. That's going to be a crowded field.

I'm sure she's a fine gal and would likely do a fine job, but we don't need any more dynasties in this country...even when it's our side.

And Trump won't back Rubio in '28, unless JD really steps on his dick...which I doubt.


I meant DeSantis will get Trump's backing in 28. At worst, Trump will sit out giving his blessings. But, yeah, it's hard to see Trump not back JD.

Donald Trump and his daughter in law hardly qualifies as a dynasty. I think she's earned her right by getting the Republicans a system to minimize election shenanigans.



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Trump won't be backing anyone except JD Vance, unless he pulled a Pence 2.0, which is extremely doubtful. Can you imagine Trump not backing his VP, after all the good works he's done, and goes with someone else? Not going to happen.

Oh, and what the hell is wrong with "dynasty", as long as the country prospers?


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