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If we cannot benefit from enough people getting the vaccine to halt the spread of the disease, at least the ones who refuse make it possible for those lower on the precedence lists to get it sooner.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
I had measles, mumps rubella and chickenpox. They all sucked but measles was the worst. So sick you could not get out of bed as a kid. Missed out on polio but I had plenty of friends in school that had it. Being in an iron lung or being paralyzed really gets your attention.

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Originally posted by Rev. A. J. Forsyth:

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If we cannot benefit from enough people getting the vaccine to halt the spread of the disease, at least the ones who refuse make it possible for those lower on the precedence lists to get it sooner.

Damn straight. You don't want it? Fine, I'll take your dose.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
It’s a flu shot of dubious usefulness.

I’ll pass on being a guinea pig.

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Originally posted by Dick0550:
Statistically as a 35 year old with no medical conditions I'm have an incredibly low risk of serious COVID symptoms.

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Originally posted by Jupiter:
The number of people who have died because they couldn't get treated because of an illness no more deadly than the common flu.

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
It’s a flu shot of dubious usefulness.

I’ll pass on being a guinea pig.

No it's not. It is an mRNA vaccine and not an inactivated or attenuated virus vaccine. This is leading edge technology and much safer than "traditional" vaccines. My mom (almost 77) got her first shot Monday, no issues. She's in an assisted living place that got a breakout of 21 infections after Thanksgiving, but luckily not in her section.

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Originally posted by pulicords:

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
It’s a flu shot of dubious usefulness.

I’ll pass on being a guinea pig.

No it's not. It is an mRNA vaccine and not an inactivated or attenuated virus vaccine. This is leading edge technology and much safer than "traditional" vaccines. My mom (almost 77) got her first shot Monday, no issues. She's in an assisted living place that got a breakout of 21 infections after Thanksgiving, but luckily not in her section.

I'm over 65 years old with a pre-existing medical condition that puts me at higher risk. My infectious disease specialist isn't just my MD, he's involved in "leading edge" research on dealing with viral and other serious illnesses. He's also a paraplegic, polio survivor. The fact that ignorant people imply he's involved in some kind of conspiracy or that he's just some egghead that's all too willing to experiment on others for no reason other than profit, is reminiscent of those who (in the last century) believed, "If man was meant to fly, he'd have been born with wings!"

These same technological advances could also be used to prevent or cure a myriad of other diseases. If they're offered in the future as a prophylactic to defend against something like prostate or lung cancer, will the same resistance be evident? The efforts to use this technology were ongoing before the current pandemic, but vastly underfunded because such long-term efforts didn't provide short-term profits driven by investors in the private sector. In the public arena, politicians refused to sufficient provide funding because they're reactive (to the "threat of the moment") rather than proactively preparing for something that may not occur during their tenure.

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Originally posted by pulicords:

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
It’s a flu shot of dubious usefulness.

I’ll pass on being a guinea pig.

No it's not. It is an mRNA vaccine and not an inactivated or attenuated virus vaccine. This is leading edge technology and much safer than "traditional" vaccines. My mom (almost 77) got her first shot Monday, no issues. She's in an assisted living place that got a breakout of 21 infections after Thanksgiving, but luckily not in her section.

I'm over 65 years old with a pre-existing medical condition that puts me at higher risk. My infectious disease specialist isn't just my MD, he's involved in "leading edge" research on dealing with viral and other serious illnesses. He's also a paraplegic, polio survivor. The fact that ignorant people imply he's involved in some kind of conspiracy or that he's just some egghead that's all too willing to experiment on others for no reason other than profit, is reminiscent of those who (in the last century) believed, "If man was meant to fly, he'd have been born with wings!"

These same technological advances could also be used to prevent or cure a myriad of other diseases. If they're offered in the future as a prophylactic to defend against something like prostate or lung cancer, will the same resistance be evident? The efforts to use this technology were ongoing before the current pandemic, but vastly underfunded because such long-term efforts didn't provide short-term profits driven by investors in the private sector. In the public arena, politicians refused to sufficient provide funding because they're reactive (to the "threat of the moment") rather than proactively preparing for something that may not occur during their tenure.

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Originally posted by BOATTRASH1:
So if you get the vaccine you’re a stooge?

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Originally posted by mutedblade:
Only fools rush in. Not necessarily a stooge, but I'm not getting a vaccine for something that barely has an affect on the vast majority of peoples health, especially if there are no long term studies about the risks involved. What are the consequences for big pharma when people start dropping because of the vaccine? It may never happen, but for now I'll take my chances with the Wu Flu. I don't want to jump onto a short term solution that may cause long term effects....

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