Just a heads up, Moccamaster has some serious deals on Amazon Prime right now... Over $100 off of several models.

Thanks for the heads up. For the last couple of weeks I was talking myself out of buying the Grand but now I have no excuse!

I know they are well thought of on this site, and main reason I purchased one last year.

Mine produces a consistent bloom, and tremendous flavor, very pleased with its performance.

Over $100 off brings them into near orbit of other less coffee makers.

Tempting.

I've always wanted one, but didn't want to spend that kind of money.

To the uninitiated (me), they look like drip coffee makers. How is it any better than other drip coffee makers? What's the secret sauce here?

I'm not a gourmet but I drink coffee daily (nespresso). Would someone like me appreciate the difference?

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Originally posted by konata88:
To the uninitiated (me), they look like drip coffee makers. How is it any better than other drip coffee makers? What's the secret sauce here?

I'm not a gourmet but I drink coffee daily (nespresso). Would someone like me appreciate the difference?

Honestly, probably not. I did a blind taste with several friends after buying it last year.

We tested OXO, Mr Coffee, Bonivita, Moccamaster, and a pour over.
Same water, same grounds, all measured exactly...
Bloom was very pronounced in the Moccamaster and OXO.
Moccamaster was fastest brew.
There was a definite difference in taste in all... with the pour over beating all in taste.

Mr Coffee, slowest, zero bloom, but next best flavor in blind taste test... Which to me, means it is just what folks were used too.

Two of us are "snobs" and we both rated pour over, then moccamaster in taste...

The quality of the machine, the consistency in temp and bloom puts moccamaster on top for me.

at roughly $230, it brings it closer to Bonavita and OXO prices.

So, if on the fence, Price is best it will be until next year is my guess.

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Originally posted by Dreamerx4:

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Originally posted by konata88:
To the uninitiated (me), they look like drip coffee makers. How is it any better than other drip coffee makers? What's the secret sauce here?

I'm not a gourmet but I drink coffee daily (nespresso). Would someone like me appreciate the difference?

Honestly, probably not. I did a blind taste with several friends after buying it last year.

We tested OXO, Mr Coffee, Bonivita, Moccamaster, and a pour over.
Same water, same grounds, all measured exactly...
Bloom was very pronounced in the Moccamaster and OXO.
Moccamaster was fastest brew.
There was a definite difference in taste in all... with the pour over beating all in taste.

Mr Coffee, slowest, zero bloom, but next best flavor in blind taste test... Which to me, means it is just what folks were used too.

Two of us are "snobs" and we both rated pour over, then moccamaster in taste...

The quality of the machine, the consistency in temp and bloom puts moccamaster on top for me.

at roughly $230, it brings it closer to Bonavita and OXO prices.

So, if on the fence, Price is best it will be until next year is my guess.

Interesting. So, the Moccamaster is better but not orders of magnitude better than other good drip coffee makers?

But, even average to good drip coffee makers will beat Nespresso or (even worse) Keurig easily. I prefer Nespresso, but it isn't really very good.

Our Capresso took a dump after 12 years so I bought one of these. Its primary appeal is it comes in an array of decorative colors, which appealed to the wife.

That said, it makes a damn good cup of coffee. And coffee in my house is the oil for our economic engine, so I sprung for it. The wife thought I was insane—until she saw the color (blue). No regrets except for the carafe. I wish I’d gotten the thermal carafe, YMMV.

I could possibly be persuaded to get the grinder. That’s just about the nicest one I’ve ever seen.

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Interesting. So, the Moccamaster is better but not orders of magnitude better than other good drip coffee makers?

And now for the rest of the story.

Technivorm Moccamaster, Bonavita, and Oxo are all SCA certified brewers (there are a few others too). All SCA Certified Brewers have been tested and meet 7 specifications - brew basket volume, 90 to 96 deg C brewing temperature, resulting brew, uniformity of performance, uniformity of extraction, if applicable heater holds 80 to 85 deg C for 30 minutes, and a detailed manual that helps owner get most out of unit such as grind size.

In other words, there shouldn't be much difference from a Technivorm Moccamaster, Bonavita, and Oxo. Also, if you're good at pourover then it'll be equally good for much less money. Mr. Coffee doesn't stand a chance because it doesn't brew hot enough.

Based on a Sigforum recommendation, I bought my Dad a Technivorm Moccamaster for Christmas. We did a blind head to head taste test with his recently cleaned Mr Coffee and there was no comparison. It got so much more flavor out of the same coffee. I bought myself a Technivorm a year or so later and have been happy ever since.

It's a great time to be a coffee lover with so many SCA certified brewers. There were significantly less when I bought Dad's and mine. One differentiator for the Technivorm Moccamaster is that it is solid state and there isn't a microchip in sight so it should last for decades as long as maintained.

These two are very similar to mine and are at a great price

$215.64 for a Technivorm Moccamaster 79112 KBT

$222.13 for a Technivorm Moccamaster 79312 KBGT

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Very well stated tatortodd.

With the incredible price drop on Prime days, now is definitely the time to buy if you have been on the fence.

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These two are very similar to mine and are at a great price

$215.64 for a Technivorm Moccamaster 79112 KBT

$222.13 for a Technivorm Moccamaster 79312 KBGT

Do you know what the difference is between these two? They look identical.

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Do you know what the difference is between these two? They look identical.

Very minor.

The KBGT has automatic drip stop and comes in 5 colors. If someone pulls out the carafe or never puts the carafe in all the way it doesn't drip out coffee until the carafe trips a lever on bottom.

The KBT has manual drip stop and comes in 3 colors. You can see a little lever on the residency cone that holds the filter and grounds.

Mine has the automatic drip stop, and Dad's has the manual drip stop. Dad's has been flawless since 2010 and mine has been flawless since 2012.

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Do you know what the difference is between these two? They look identical.

Very minor.

The KBGT has automatic drip stop and comes in 5 colors. If someone pulls out the carafe or never puts the carafe in all the way it doesn't drip out coffee until the carafe trips a lever on bottom.

The KBT has manual drip stop and comes in 3 colors. You can see a little lever on the residency cone that holds the filter and grounds.

Mine has the automatic drip stop, and Dad's has the manual drip stop. Dad's has been flawless since 2010 and mine has been flawless since 2012.

That's very helpful. Thanks tatortodd, I appreciate it.

I have a french press but I don't use it much because I don't have a grinder; pre-ground sizing is hit or miss.

Where does a french press play relative to the moccamaster? I only drink about 1 cup at a time. I assume I'd need to buy a grinder to properly use either the french press or moccamaster.

You guys are killing me with getting me to buy stuff I probably don't need. But I'm curious now. If I'm not gonna really tell the difference between FP and moccamaster, then I can save $250. Seems like it's better than the nespresso (w/ Peets) but it's convenient for me - quick 1 cup at a time; no cleanup.

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If I'm not gonna really tell the difference between FP and moccamaster, then I can save $250.

For me, the key is the hassle factor. I think the pourover and French press taste better, but have more clean up.

I have had the OXO for several years and, while it makes a decent cup of coffee, I dislike the carafe. It's fine if I drink the coffee right away. But, if I want a second cup, the coffee will be room temperature within an hour, so I usually brew the second cup separately. A family member has a Moccamaster. I thought it made a good cup of coffee and the carafe kept the coffee good and hot when I went back for a second cup.

The best of all worlds for me was when my son, a trained barista, lived with us after moving back from Italy. Every morning, he'd make me coffee with the espresso machine I bought for him. Boy, do I miss those days.

We bought our Moccamaster last year over Prime Days. It is a good machine and frankly, Prime Days pricing puts it about where it oughta be for price. We went back-and-forth on which carafe size. Bought the large “office size” (they must not drink much coffee in Europe) and that was a good decision.

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Bought the large “office size” (they must not drink much coffee in Europe) and that was a good decision.

Not sure. I sure saw a lot of Expresso and Cappucino every time I've been to Europe.

It did jog my memory on one thing about a Technivorm as it's made in Netherlands. One thing to note is the European coffee cup size is 4 oz, and the American coffee cup size is 5 oz. My 10 cup Technivorm would be an 8 cup coffee maker if it was an American company.

No idea why Europe and USA are different and no idea why they're both not 8 ounce like the standard unit of measurement called a cup.

I don’t think we have a single coffee cup that’s just 5 ounces.

Okay - I'm looking at the moccamaster one cup. seems like the right size for me.

what do you guys recommend as a grinder - again about one cup a day, one cup at a time.