Can one of our members in Calif. verify this, it's almost impossible to believe


California’s war on guns will soon broaden to a war on ammunition as a ban on the possession of bullets purchased out-of-state takes effect January 1, 2018.

This is one of many steps going into effect which will quickly place ammunition under controls similar to those which Democrat lawmakers have placed on firearms.

According to the Sacramento Bee, it will also be illegal “to transfer or buy ammo” from anyone other than a licensed dealer within the state, beginning January 1. California residents can order ammunition from a catalog as long as they have that ammunition shipped to a licensed dealer for pickup. The dealer will then add a “processing fee” to the cost of the ammunition.

In this scenario, a “processing fee” is just another tax that law-abiding citizens will pay for the bullets they buy.

Then, in 2019, all ammunition purchasers will be required to undergo a background check like those currently required for firearm sales. That background check will require the law-abiding citizen to “pay a $1 state fee” for the check. That “fee” is yet another tax.

This is how gun control or, in this case, ammunition control, works. First. they limit the supply by passing a law that it is only legal to possess ammunition purchased in California. Then they pass a law narrowing options even further, so that it is only legal to purchase in-state ammunition from a licensed dealer. Then they apply a tax but call it a “processing fee.” And in 2019 they will apply another tax of $1 to help cover the cost of a point of sale background check for law-abiding ammunition purchasers.

Once such fees are in place it is quite easy for state bureaucrats to increase them to cover unforeseen costs. In the end, this will make ammunition cost-prohibitive for poorer families who may live in situations where they need a gun and ammunition worse than anyone.

It should be clear from California’s gun control history that these laws on ammunition are only the beginning. After all, California implemented background checks for firearms then followed that with gun registration requirements and gun confiscation laws. They even put in a 10-day waiting period on gun purchases and required would-be gun buyers to acquire a certificate from the state proving eligibility to buy a gun. The certificate is only good for five years and requires a fee at renewal. That fee is another tax.

Ammunition laws will follow the same pattern if Californians keep electing the same people to office.



http://www.breitbart.com/calif...ning-january-1-2018/

All too true. But I'm well stocked up. My heirs might have to figure out what to do with the rest of it.

It's right on the front page

https://www.outdoorlimited.com...uctCode=1b222332case

It's true. Just the latest abuse in a long line.

I'm stupid.

I still don't understand how these laws can pass and stand while we still have the 2A in the BoR.

Wrong is still wrong, no matter how many people support it.

Did it in NY.

Now we have no crime.

Words fail to express the deep visceral hatred I harbor towards the political class in California. They are enemies of liberty and need to be treated as such.

Just wait...Gavin Newsome will be our next governor and things will get even worse.

I am behind enemy lines. The state Dem lawmakers are like Nazis, slowly taking away our ability to defend ourselves. They will take and take, until Trump and the future supreme court gives us our rights back. Everyday I hope is the day Ginsburg passes away, and the supremes start ruling in our favor.

The people voting for the Democrat nazis are stupid and naive.

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Originally posted by stickman428:
Words fail to express the deep visceral hatred I harbor towards the political class in California. They are enemies of liberty and need to be treated as such.

Enemies of all humanity.

Okay? So, how exactly does Johnny Lawmaker determine what box of ammo was purchased pre 2018 and Post 2017 from a trip east to a free state? Will you be required to show proof of purchase with model and lot number of the ammo when entering a shooting range?

Seems like a whole lot of stupid in that bill.

They used to have ammunition registry, it ended in the '80's. All ammo had to be logged out, records kept, identification presented and recorded, etc. It ended when the AG reported that it was ineffective.

If you bring in more than 50 rounds from out of state, and are caught, it is a felony! They would love to take away all ability to own firearms.

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Originally posted by c1steve:
I am behind enemy lines. The state Dem lawmakers are like Nazis, slowly taking away our ability to defend ourselves. They will take and take, until Trump and the future supreme court gives us our rights back. Everyday I hope is the day Ginsburg passes away, and the supremes start ruling in our favor.

The people voting for the Democrat nazis are stupid and naive.

Slight drift. I didn’t realize how moderate the mayor of SF was till this week. Luckily we had our project signed off a couple weeks back. The flaming libs must be chomping at the bit to gain mayoral control of the city.

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Originally posted by olfuzzy:
"ban on the possession of bullets purchased out-of-state takes effect January 1, 2018."

Questions:
1. How will the state know if it was purchased out of state?
2. Will this be similar to the ban of fireworks coming in from out of state?
3. Will this be similar to the ban of heroin from out of state? Meth?

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Originally posted by c1steve:
If you bring in more than 50 rounds from out of state, and are caught, it is a felony! They would love to take away all ability to own firearms.

Wow. Remind me not to accept the position if my company offers one to move to San Francisco.

For me personally.... This was the straw that broke the camel's back. I moved out of my native state and am enjoying my freedom.

Reload!

What about those of us who may visit from out of state? My in-laws live in a relatively rural area and much of my free time while visiting is spent shooting. Am I going to be limited to my allotted 50 rounds from out of state?

Secondly, what about reloads?

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Originally posted by Sgt Neutron:

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Originally posted by olfuzzy:
"ban on the possession of bullets purchased out-of-state takes effect January 1, 2018."

Questions:
1. How will the state know if it was purchased out of state?

Easy- each CA compliant round will be imprinted with a snowflake marking.