I don't think its just the dam (Oro) they are talking about. CA had some significant rainfall last month and I would image that there was some serious flooding and perhaps slides that need to be addressed.

California claims its broke, a trillion in debt. So why all the social programs?

Why all the sanctuary money being spent on stuff other than what they need to deal with the emergencies?

They can't manage their own books - there was a thread not long ago about a giant accounting oops - it wasn't an oops - it was very deliberate

" This isn't an annual budget issue but instead something not on anyone's radar. This is a above and beyond the norm contingency event. "

The concept of 'maintenance and rigorous inspection' IS a normal expected expense.

Preventing your oldOLD dam from falling apart SHOULD be on the radar.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
California claims its broke, a trillion in debt. So why all the social programs?

Fixing dams doesn't bring in the vote - handing out money does.

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Originally posted by 2012BOSS302:
Fixing dams doesn't bring in the vote - handing out money does.

Exactly. No money for the important stuff, like maintaining dams. It's all been spent buying votes.

That is the left's playbook: Buy votes from the lazy, the illegal and the stupid. Duh.

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You forgot about the dead....

President Donald Trump approved federal emergency relief funds Tuesday, following requests by California Governor Jerry Brown. The requests for Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) aid pertain to flooding in January and the evacuation effort due to the risk of spillway collapse at the Oroville Dam.

http://www.breitbart.com/calif...deral-emergency-aid/

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Originally posted by signewt:
" This isn't an annual budget issue but instead something not on anyone's radar. This is a above and beyond the norm contingency event. "

The concept of 'maintenance and rigorous inspection' IS a normal expected expense.

Preventing your oldOLD dam from falling apart SHOULD be on the radar.

What's that saying?? "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"??? Rock solid planning you have there, Jer...

Dear Governor Moonbeam,

In response to your request for financial assistance to cope with the effects of above-average precipitation in California, the official Federal response is:

NUTS

Thank you for your support,

Donald Trump
President

Governor Brown, why don't you take a moment and tell us how you stuck your hippy foot into your gaping mouth in the '92 presidential election?

After that, you can go back to cursing the United States while simultaneously begging its government for money. Asshole

Time for some tough love for the Golden State from the rest of the country....

February 15, 2017
Governor Moonbeam shakes the begging cup
By Joseph Somsel

California’s Governor Jerry Brown (aka Governor Moonbeam.) has got a lot of nerve. Case in point is his request of the Federal government for $162 million to cover the recent damage from a series of intense winter storms.

And that was before the recent damage at the state’s Oroville Dam. While asking for emergency Federal physical assistance (trucks, helicopters, tents, etc.) for the crisis is entirely appropriate, Moonbeam wants Trump to use maybe $200 million of Federal funds for repairs to the damaged structure, one owned and operated by the State of California, incidentally built by the current governor’s father, Pat Brown, when he was governor in the 1960s.

If the political leadership of the State of California, all Democrats, were frugal stewards of the state’s expenditures, with every tax dollar wisely allocated to pressing needs, perhaps a helping hand might be extended. But let’s take a look at the state government’s 2016-2017 budget to see if some luxuries might be cut to cover the state’s costs for flood and infrastructure repair expenses.

The first glaring item is that the state budgets $261 million for drought relief this fiscal year. Hmmm? Maybe that $22.7 million for emergency drinking water won’t be needed. And $30 million to remove dead trees from public lands? How did Gaia do it before the State of California came along? Actually, most of the line items in this category could be legitimate expenditures at some level for a state but the $2 million for a “Save our Water” publicity campaign looks like an easy cut.

Let’s look further afield for ways for California to pay for California’s problems. Crossing off one single “climate change” item would pretty much cover Brown’s request. The California Air Resources Board (CARB) is getting $363 million for “low carbon transportation.” This is largely subsidies for electric and fuel cell car purchases and heavy equipment upgrades, and even an Obama-style “cash for clunkers” program for state residents. By hitting up Trump for money, Brown is telling us that he thinks electric car subsidies are a better use of state taxpayers’ money than emergency dam repairs. Eldon Musk probably doesn’t own any dams.

One item that was popular with Democrat voters nationwide in the 2012 election was Obamaphones. California will now subsidize your cell service too.

Lifeline Program. The budget includes $483 million (Universal LifeLine Telephone Service Trust Administrative Committee Fund) for the California Lifeline Program, which provides discounted telephone services to low–income households. This amount is roughly the same as the revised 2015–16 spending amount, but reflects a more than 150 percent increase in spending relative to 2013–14 spending ($192 million). The recent increases in the costs for the program are largely driven by an increase in program enrollment associated with expanding the program in 2014 to include wireless telephone service.

I hate to get too libertarian, but spending $33.1 million to hire 134 permanent positions to implement new medical marijuana laws seems unnecessary given the longstanding robust free market in the commodity. Just walk a block on Haight Street in San Francisco to find out how robust. I will grant that the $700,000 for research on better pesticides for marijuana cultivation is a constructive expenditure, useful worldwide. Thanks, California Dudes!

Frankly, President Trump should just say no to cash for California. The state’s political leadership is like that drunken relative who always has a carton of Camels and a quart of Jim Beam in the house but hits you up for money for milk for his kids. Time for some tough love for the Golden State from the rest of the country.

Joseph Somsel is a former California citizen and taxpayer.

http://www.americanthinker.com...the_begging_cup.html

Oh fixing the dam would have brought votes and spending $160mm in the oroville / butte county community would have been welcome. But it's a small county population wise and that population votes republican in general. So it wasn't the votes they wanted. Unfortunately it's the huge left leaning populations in the bay area and LA that drive this state. Get out of those dozen or so counties and this state is remarkable red. There's about 35 of the 58 counties that have sheriffs that will issue ccw with pretty much no questions asked. The population of those 35 counties don't add up to much, So they have no power in Sacramento. In fact none of the bottom 35 counties even have 300k people each. Most are under 100k and a few under 10k and these are not small counties land area wise.

Trump should make it a condition that before CA can get any more money, they need to go into receivership

Here, this is better:

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Originally posted by ryan81986:
Trump should make it a condition that before CA can get any more money, they need to go into the Pacific Ocean

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Joseph Somsel is a former California citizen and taxpayer.

Well said Joseph, well said...

Wouldn't it have been great if Trump had said " the federal government will earmark $200 million for direct aid to individuals and businesses affected by the flooding from the mismanaged and improperly maintained State of California Dam. The funds must be applied for directly by the individual or business and funds will be directly sent to those who qualify. No funds will be sent to the state as money directly into the hands of those damaged will help spur the local economy and directly improve the lives of the people who were hurt by the actions of Sacramento.

Moonbeam, dig deeper into your own budget and fix the dam, or we'll fix it for you and bill your ass....

If he'd done that, California would've taxed it as income. They're very good at sucking.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
If he'd done that, California would've taxed it as income. They're very good at sucking.

well they'd only get a small pct of the total, and in fact that's fine, that's the way it's supposed to work vs the Government getting 100%, and you know they won't use all of it for the problem.

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Originally posted by HRK:

Moonbeam, dig deeper into your own budget and fix the dam, or we'll fix it for you and bill your ass....

That bill wouldn't get paid.

The fed.gov should say NO to fixing the Oroville dam, even if not fixing it will lead to a catastrophic failure.

California is the beneficiary of the dam water and the dam hydropower.

Let California fix it.

Need funds?

Kill the bullet train, a $100B boondoggle if ever there was one. That would provide all the money needed and then some.

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That bill wouldn't get paid.

I agree though CA wouldn't "pay it"

Then why couldn't the Feds just deduct it from future payments to CA from the Federal Budget, you don't have to get a check to get paid...

I can see it now, $1 million for aid, $199 million for fighting Trump, tooth and nail. Fuck off Chud munch. I really have no hopes of California using the money correctly.

I honestly feel for anyone that is being affected by this clusterfuck. I hope their state can find a way to get them much needed help.