Selogic being one who appeared to advocate harassing them…[/QUOTE] How so ?[/QUOTE]

Mea culpa. I meant Snidera.

That's hilarious. lol

I haven't hunted in years but have no problem with it. I let a few people I know hunt my land. My neighbor has a stand right on the fence line, but they do not take deer on my side of the fence even though they know I don't care. I've told them to just come over through my gate with their SXS if they happen to shoot something on my side.

All that said, even if I did have a problem with it, I don't think it overly wise to harass someone in a tree stand with a loaded rifle
even if they are in the wrong.

I think we could argue and quote various laws till the cows come home but at the end of the day , cameras will tell the tale . Did they or didn't they ...

I get it. I hunt. Put cameras up and dont be an asshole neighbor. Don’t make noise or act a fool. Let them hunt. For me it is relaxing. Just finding a reason to be in the woods.

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Originally posted by DougE:

All that said, even if I did have a problem with it, I don't think it overly wise to harass someone in a tree stand with a loaded rifle
even if they are in the wrong.

If you harass someone, someone might very well harass you back.

I would hate to see your house burn down or something.

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Originally posted by selogic:
I think we could argue and quote various laws till the cows come home but at the end of the day , cameras will tell the tale . Did they or didn't they ...

Them cameras work both ways lets not forget.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by ridewv:
My plan for next year is to make that trail also serve as my shooting range, yeah somewhat because of what they're doing ...

Dual-purposing, not re-purposing, but dual-purposing a trail to also serve as a shooting range. What could possibly go wrong?

And all because you have a bug up your ass because they're hunting and you don't like hunting or hunters.

Wow.

Unfortunately you have no knowledge of my property and terrain so what you just said (while perhaps dramatic) doesn't apply.

Wrong. I like hunters, most of my friends are hunters. But I do NOT like irresponsible hunters, trespassers, and poachers. Actually it sounds like YOU have a bug up your ass, you don't even know me but seem to dislike me because I have a problem with a neighbor who has in the past, and very likely appears to be now, hunting on me illegally.

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you don't even know me but seem to dislike me because I have a problem with a neighbor who has in the past, and very likely appears to be now, hunting on me illegally.

As a fellow land owner I wouldn't like it either, but your option is to bring proof and prosecute, which brings its own set of problems, depending on the individual. The best course of action is to convince said neighbor into not wanting to take game on your property without overt threats that might put you in the hot seat.

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Originally posted by AKSuperDually:
IF they are legally shot off your land, and travel onto your land...in every state I know of, the hunter has every right to go onto your land to collect the game.

Umm …. Better check the actual law.
Colorado:

“1. TRESPASSING. Going onto private lands without getting permission first while hunting, fishing or performing any related activity is illegal. Private lands do not need to be posted or fenced, so it can be difficult to see boundaries. Violators may be suspended for up to 5 years for trespassing. This includes State Land Board properties not leased and signed by CPW, unless permission is given by the lessee. You must have permission from the landowner to enter private land to retrieve a harvested animal. First, you should try to contact the landowner on your own. If that effort fails, call the local CPW office (inside front cover).

“2. Failing to make a reasonable attempt to track and kill animals you wound or may have wounded. Remember that it’s against the law to pursue wounded wildlife that goes on private property without first obtaining permission from the landowner or person in charge.”

One link, but not the only one that says essentially the same thing.

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Originally posted by DougE:

As a fellow land owner I wouldn't like it either, but your option is to bring proof and prosecute, which brings its own set of problems, depending on the individual. The best course of action is to convince said neighbor into not wanting to take game on your property without overt threats that might put you in the hot seat.

If I whitness I will provide it to authorities. And I have bent over backwards trying to convince said neighbor to hunt within his 200 acres rather than erecting stands 15' from our common property line.
I have repeatedly made it clear to this neighbor and his family to not hunt on my property and never in a threatening way... "just a reminder you do know I don't want any hunting on my property, right?" They said "absolutely" but then move their stands right on the line.

Iowa has 400,000 deer,
And that's with hunters taking out 100,000 per year, three years in a row.

In my mind 400,000 is 200,000 too many.

If my neighbors want to take three or four deer per year from my field ,
Have a great time.

It's 3 less that my truck grill won't eat

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Originally posted by Mustang-PaPa:

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Originally posted by selogic:
I think we could argue and quote various laws till the cows come home but at the end of the day , cameras will tell the tale . Did they or didn't they ...

Them cameras work both ways lets not forget.

Uh , ok ..

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Originally posted by selogic: Uh , ok ..

Thats as in neighbors doing chicken shit things to hunters lawfully hunting or not. Two wrongs don't make a right.

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Originally posted by ridewv:

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Originally posted by DougE:

As a fellow land owner I wouldn't like it either, but your option is to bring proof and prosecute, which brings its own set of problems, depending on the individual. The best course of action is to convince said neighbor into not wanting to take game on your property without overt threats that might put you in the hot seat.

If I whitness I will provide it to authorities. And I have bent over backwards trying to convince said neighbor to hunt within his 200 acres rather than erecting stands 15' from our common property line.
I have repeatedly made it clear to this neighbor and his family to not hunt on my property and never in a threatening way... "just a reminder you do know I don't want any hunting on my property, right?" They said "absolutely" but then move their stands right on the line.

You're at an impass. You don't like the stands near your property line, but they're both legal and appropriate for the purpose of hunting his 200 acres where they're at.

You keep saying you don't want them to hunt your land. They say they aren't. There's really no discussion to be had at this point, either they are or they aren't and unless you can show they are you shouldn't be trying to do anything about it.

If they aren't hunting you it's inappropriate and probably illegal to do anything to disturb them.

If they ARE hunting your land, get proof and get them prosecuted. Any game warden would gladly help you with it. All your posts up to this point can be summed up as I think they might be and I don't like it- well find out and if they are you can actually DO something about it.

@RideWV
I recall you are a motorcyclist. I respect your feelings about no hunting on your property BUT! When I was riding (no longer due to medical conditions) I hit a deer on my BMW K1200RS. Totaled the bike and darn near me. My girlfriend also hit a deer on her bike. Roughly the same result. Personally as a former rider I was always grateful to those that harvested deer here in Iowa as we have way too many of those accidents on hoofs running around randomly killing bikers and causing exorbitant amounts of property damage to other vehicles. In this area you have either hit a deer or have a close friend that has.

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Originally posted by ridewv:
Unfortunately you have no knowledge of my property and terrain so what you just said (while perhaps dramatic) doesn't apply.

No, I don't. But "make that trail also serve as a shooting range" seems pretty clear. Perhaps you misstated yourself?

I helped one of my best friends set up one of two shooting ranges on his 200+ acres out in the middle of nowhere. (One rifle, the other handgun.) They are oriented so as to shoot away from any known, traveled paths nearby. They are also nowhere near adjoining properties. That is the safe and neighborly thing to do.

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Originally posted by ridewv:
... you don't even know me but seem to dislike me because I have a problem with a neighbor who has in the past, and very likely appears to be now, hunting on me illegally.

I don't dislike you at all. How can I? I don't even know you. I'm taking exception to your apparently having tried and convicted your neighbors of trespassing or intending to trespass upon no more evidence than them having placed tree stands upon their property near yours.

It's already been explained to you a reason for them to place their stands where they have is to maximize use of their property. From those locations they can hunt from the edge of their property, into their property. Is that so hard to understand?

Would you prefer they place their tree stands much further into their property and end-up shooting towards yours? Perhaps in the direction of that trail you walk/ride? If my neighbors hunted on their property, I'd certainly much rather have them shooting away from it, rather than toward it.

You don't hunt. Neither do I. I don't know how much you know about stand/blind hunting. I know a little about it, as I've helped my buddy set up for deer season from time-to-time and he's explained to me how it's done. What such hunters often do is set up trail cams in what experience tells them are likely spots, try to determine the routes deer frequently take to get from here to there, and look for areas with clear fields of fire into or along those routes. They then set up their blinds or stands to take advantage of what they've observed.

Are they setting up near routes between your property and theirs? I would imagine they are. If I wanted to maximize my chances of success, I damn sure would.

If you feel you have a legitimate concern they might shoot into your property from those tree stands, do they not likewise have a legitimate concern an errant round from the shooting range you propose might venture into theirs? I know I'd probably be annoyed if a neighbor set up a shooting range right along my property line.

I'm trying to imagine anyone hunting on my property. What is it, lizard season?