So will each mission be a milk run??

Was Harvey Milk this guys real name? Seems like a stage name.

John Paul Jones.

The Sullivans.

John F Kennedy.

Spruance.

Harvey Milk.

Midway

Coral Sea.

Kittyhawk.

Lexington

Yorktown.

Belleau Wood

Anyone spot the odd one out there?

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Two actually.

Harvey Milk and York Town.

Yorktown is one word

The world has gone mad

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Is the ship painted rainbow?

Digital rainbow camo

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Instead, this worthless, weak, moronic, administration ...

For the record, this ship's name (and others) was set in-place by #44.

Hmmmm, I though the current administration delighted in reversing everything the last administration did. Personally, I don't think the Trump administration actually opted to waste time on such things as they had bigger fish to fry, but you can bet the current group of circle jerk fanatics are all in on this sort of embarrassing stupidity.

President Trump was # 45. 44 was Obama.

Dammit! Two bachelors degrees and a master degree, and I still can't count to 45. Though this naming nonsense occurring under Barry the Wonder Putz makes perfect sense.

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Dammit! Two bachelors degrees and a master degree, and I still can't count to 45.

Once you get past twenty (twenty-one for cisgender males), it gets harder to keep track.

Milk was a pedophile who, in his 30s, f___d a 16-year old boy.

Screw him, and may he burn in hell.

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You JUST cannot formulate an argument as to why they should not name a ship after this man.

Perhaps because he apparently was well-known to be a pederast? Thus, by extension, a sexual predator and rapist?

They clearly did a brilliant job choosing this name. Tosses a bone to one of their bases, stirs up an argument even in this group that normally gets along pretty well, embarrasses the navy, at least in the eyes of some.

Seems like everything OBlunder did and the senile, urine soaked relic is currently doing is all about dividing our country. Can’t really say that they are failing.

"If you stand for nothing, you will fall for anything" - Anonymous, seen on a church marquise when I was growing up.

It's how the left works. They slooooooowly and methodically create previously held unacceptable behavior as acceptable and non-deviant so that it seeps into our society as "the new norm". I've seen it coming since circa 1998. Just like here. Some say, "It's ONLY a name on a ship! What's the harm??"

Oh Haarrrroooooold...see where I'm goin' with this?

I look back on my Navy time with fond memories. Then (60's) there were no gays in the Navy (wink). It was considered weird.

Of course we know there is, and always has been a small percentage of gay folks around, but they just kept it to themselves. Then we went to "okay, I admit I'm gay" and hoped no one kicked the shit out of them, to "Please accept me" to now it's thrown in our face.

I've had/have a few gay friends over the years and they were/are nice enough, but I wouldn't march next to them in a pride parade. Do your thing and I'll do mine. Leave it alone. There's no real reason for us to discuss your sexual orientation every time we meet. If ever.

But naming a Naval Ship after a gay guy just because he's a gay guy seems self serving. "see how much caring, tolerant and understanding I am"

Was Harvey Milk's murder what launched Diane Feinstein's political career?

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But naming a Naval Ship after a gay guy just because he's a gay guy seems self serving. "see how much caring, tolerant and understanding I am"

Normally I'd be inclined to just say "Ok, that's kinda stupid," shake my head, and that would be it. But it would appear Harvey Milk was dishonorable.

We should not be naming our ships and boats after dishonorable people.

Years ago, for a time and when I was a much younger man, I had convinced myself that I hated gays. Slowly, over time, through friends (in some cases, friends I attended church with), who were also into the theater/ musical scene, I had the briefest of meetings and exposure to gays... and I began to realize that while I didn't necessarily like them, I also didn't hate them, but instead hated the choice they made. "Love the sinner, hate the sin."

Many of the gays I've met have been, if nothing more, at least entertaining, although I've met a few that were completely lost souls grabbing at straws of some sense of identity or self-worth, and pretty strange.

In a few instances, while I have little in common with them and disagree with the life choice they've made, I've found that I share some common ground with a few on political issues. Openly gay former Ambassador and Director of National Intelligence Rick Grenell is a gay man that, again while I dislike and disagree with his choice to be gay, I've come to respect his experience and analysis on various political issues.

I had heard of Harvey Milk, but am far from an expert on him. I never had enough interest to know anything about him.. until this discussion started.

I'm still no expert on the man, but after briefly reading about him online, he seems to be an early gay activist who frequently ran for political office in order to advocate for "gay rights", and was murdered, along with the San Francisco mayor, early in his political office.

Apparently he was also known to have sex with at least one boy, 15 or 16 years old, depending on accounts.

I fail to see how a gay rights activist, even one who served in the U.S. Navy, even one who was murdered while in office, and who reportedly had sex with at least one under-age boy, had earned the distinction worthy of having a Navy ship named after him.

Show me an example of Milk creating a caterpillar or warp drive that revolutionized U.S. Navy ship performance, show me an example in which he had a long Navy career of sacrifice and service that made a lasting impact in the performance and efficiency of the Navy, show me an example of how his individual service contributed to winning a naval engagement against an enemy... hell, show me a citation in which he saved a ship or fellow crew from a fire in the engine room or dove overboard to save a fellow sailor with complete disregard for his personal safety, and I'll gladly reconsider my position.

If locals feel the need to, they can use tax payer money and build a park named after him or, God forbid, even build a statue of him.. but I see nothing in either his Navy service or his private/ political life that has earned him the honor of having a ship named after him.

The article below was written in 2013, long before the decision to name a ship after him.

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Queer Voices

Harvey Milk Was An 'Evil Man' Who Raped Teenage Boys, Unworthy Of Postage Stamp: Matt Barber

10/17/2013 03:23pm EDT | Updated February 2, 2016

Harvey Milk, the first openly gay man to hold political office in California, is set to break new ground once again as the first LGBT official to be featured on a postage stamp. But not everyone is pleased with the honor.

In a new interview, the Liberty Counsel's Matt Barber accused the U.S. Postal Service of "whitewashing" reality and "historical revisionism" in choosing to feature Milk on the forthcoming postage stamp, which will be issued next year.

"Harvey Milk was known as a pederast,” Barber told One News Now. “That's a man who in his mid-30s had a sexual appetite for teenage boys as young as 15 years old.”

He continued: "Harvey Milk was demonstrably, categorically an evil man based on his rape of teenage boys, And the fact that our U.S. government would be commemorating and recognizing him as some kind of hero really just boggles the mind.”

You can read the full interview with Barber here.

Of course, the remarks come as little surprise given Barber's history of anti-gay proclamations. Earlier this year, he slammed adoption rights for same-sex couples as "egocentric" and "purchasing children."

In April, he referred to the LGBT community as a "cancer that brings down societies," and implied that same-sex marriage was somehow connected to the "Great Flood" referenced in the biblical narrative of Noah's Ark.

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They clearly did a brilliant job choosing this name. Tosses a bone to one of their bases, stirs up an argument even in this group that normally gets along pretty well, embarrasses the navy, at least in the eyes of some.

Bingo.

The smarter parts of the Left know that getting rid of the military is not going to happen, but, what they do know is they can chip-away and wear-down the various pillars of the institution they despise. Ship naming has always been a dicey and politically charged; Hyman Rickover, father of the nuclear navy knew this game well.

Milk has been deified over the last 30-years by the Left, from Sean Penn making a biographic film of him to other parts of the Fed govt working to make sure his name his not merely a footnote of history, such as awarding him the Presidential Medal of Freedom. His only contribution was he was a gay guy, who got elected to a local civic position for 11-months before his death.

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Was Harvey Milk's murder what launched Diane Feinstein's political career?

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She had been a supervisor for a decade prior and had a few unsuccessful runs for mayor. At the time of the assassination, she was the president of the board of supervisors and the next in line of succession. The double assassination was the zenith and end-point to one of the most violent era's in US history. Ironically, Feinstein was a major supporter of the Navy, starting SF's annual Fleet Week, this would eventually put her at odds with the radical left parts of the Dem party.

Yet another example of being prideful in something undeserving.

Being LBGTZYX is not something in which pride should be instilled. I've been accepting and beyond tolerant of these aberrations of nature. I've had friends who were L/G. Live and let live; nature has exceptions.

But for this group to be prideful of its essence is ridiculous. I'd be more respectful to the autistic who can manage independence than to someone who belongs to the LGBTxyz, who other than some aberration of genetics, have no special differentiation to society in and of themselves. They have abnormal sexual proclivities. So what? What in god's name makes them special in any way? To be deserving of pride? To have any special recognition or status in society.

To have their name honored on a national entity? We had no one more deserving based on merit after which to name the ship? Even if Milk was an honorable person, what was his merit? He was chosen just as a result of his aberrant sexuality? How disrespectful that is to those whose merit is more deserving of the honor.

I'm done, as I've said before, with the LGBxyz community. I've accepted them before. No longer - I will now oppose them and their cause at every opportunity. The only exceptions of those who identify with MAGA more than the LGBxyz community.

I'm sick to death of having their cause rammed down my consciousness. They have pride without merit. The exact opposite of humble with merit - those are the people I respect.

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You are painting with a broad brush. There are plenty of gay Republicans. This was a move by OUR GOVERNMENT and or the Navy, not all gay individuals.

Yes. I realize that it's a broad brush. And it the individual, personal level, I really don't care much about LBGxyz.

But this is getting too pervasive. In government. In politics. At work. An LGBxyz diversity hire is prioritized over someone who has more merit and competency? For the love of god, why? The company suffers, the better candidate suffers, the co-workers suffer (needing to pick up the slack), the product suffers. Why?

Again, I agree there is a difference at the individual level. I still accept it at the individual level. But no longer at the macro level. With all due respect, I'm done. Laws, mandates, taxes, spending, sexuality, equity, censorship, natural rights - these people (the Left) all band together and continue to barrage me / us without reason. I'm not explicitly fighting back yet, but I'm done with any macro level support of them. I've worked hard all my life in hopes of a peaceful, enjoyable retirement. I see it being whittled away bit by bit by bit. To say I'm frustrated would be a gross understatement - I just don't have the eloquence to properly convey it.